Does ID/Creationism Teach People Sloppy Habits of Reasoning? (bible)

[Mestemia]

Originally Posted by Sola'lor

No. It just shows that there is more than one way to interpret data.

What data?

[Scuba Pete]

It's amazing that a belief in God is seen as a "sloppy habit". It's just another effort to portray people of faith as being stupid, lazy and/or intellectually dishonest. People wonder why I write so often about bias and discrimination.

The sad part, is that no one has presented inconclusive proof that God did not participate in the design or implementation of evolution. For all ANYONE knows, God designed evolution to begin with and so it's design is not only intelligent but rather eloquent. Therefore, it appears that the REAL intellectual dishonesty belongs to those who dismiss it out of turn.

But here's the rub. This is a theological rather than a scientific assertion. Science can neither prove nor disprove any role God has played in evolution in either it's design or implementation. Ergo, ID should not be taught in the classroom, but in the home or religious institution. Ergo #2, atheism should not be taught or encouraged in the classroom either. This was the case in both my daughter's and son's AP Biology class. In one, my son was told that theists are "idiots". In my daughter's class she was thanked for not believing in creation. Neither the assertion or the denial of God has any place in the classroom.

[yossarian22]

To Pete,
I think Sunstone was specifically referring to the flavor of ID which demands acceptance in science classrooms and the creationists who spearheaded the efforts to put ID in science classes, namely Young Earth Creationists.

[Mestemia]

Originally Posted by yossarian22

To Pete,
I think Sunstone was specifically referring to the flavor of ID which demands acceptance in science classrooms and the creationists who spearheaded the efforts to put ID in science classes, namely Young Earth Creationists.

Now now.
No need to spoil his little rant.

[Willamena]

Originally Posted by Scuba Pete

It's amazing that a belief in God is seen as a "sloppy habit"...

ID isn't a belief in God; even they say so.

[Francine]

Originally Posted by Willamena

ID isn't a belief in God; even they say so.

Yeah, the intelligent designer could be an alien.

[Scuba Pete]

Originally Posted by Willamena

ID isn't a belief in God; even they say so.

And someone (many of them the same) will tell you that evolution requires a disbelief in God. Neither premise holds any traction with reality. IOW, find me ONE person who pushes ID who is not a theist. Just one.

[Scuba Pete]

Originally Posted by yossarian22

To Pete,
I think Sunstone was specifically referring to the flavor of ID which demands acceptance in science classrooms and the creationists who spearheaded the efforts to put ID in science classes, namely Young Earth Creationists.

Intelligent design - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia It appears that Wikipedia does not agree with that assertion. But then, what do they know?

[rojse]

Originally Posted by Captain Civic

Ignorance isn't the same as disagreement.

Willful ignorance is, though.