The not so beautifull world.. (Earth, evolve, theist, bless)

[Bouncing Ball]

Originally Posted by tomspug

So if I go to Yosemite National Park and say, 'this is beautiful'. Are you going to say, 'no it's not'? Because I'm pretty sure you'd be 100% wrong.

Philosophy can only go as far as experience. Anyone who has seen something beautiful will never agree with you, no matter how much you talk.

I said I agreed with the beautifullnessstuff.. It's the moving from beautifull to designer that I cannot understand..

[Mestemia]

Originally Posted by tomspug

Actually, you've got it backwards. I have never said that it is not possible for your perspective to be correct. You are the one that is doing that, not me. Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I'm automatically wrong, and I don't take that perspective on your opinion. I respect it, so respect mine.

Nice straw man.
You gonna address the point?

[Rolling_Stone]

Originally Posted by Bouncing Ball

"When you look at this beautifull world and all of it's advanced things like snowflakes and eyes you can just see there must have been a builder.."

I agree with the beautifull world.. But I can't see that this world is so complex that it must have had a builder.

I wonder, for the ones who think this world is so complex that it needs a builder;
What kind of world could exist that looks like as if doesn't need a builder, in your eyes?

Hmmmm. Good question, but things like meaning, beauty and value are not intrinsic to either chemistry or physics.