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Old 12-22-2007, 12:06 PM
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So if I go to Yosemite National Park and say, 'this is beautiful'. Are you going to say, 'no it's not'? Because I'm pretty sure you'd be 100% wrong.

Philosophy can only go as far as experience. Anyone who has seen something beautiful will never agree with you, no matter how much you talk.
I said I agreed with the beautifullnessstuff.. It's the moving from beautifull to designer that I cannot understand..
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Old 12-22-2007, 02:13 PM
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Actually, you've got it backwards. I have never said that it is not possible for your perspective to be correct. You are the one that is doing that, not me. Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I'm automatically wrong, and I don't take that perspective on your opinion. I respect it, so respect mine.
Nice straw man.
You gonna address the point?
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Old 12-22-2007, 04:49 PM
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"When you look at this beautifull world and all of it's advanced things like snowflakes and eyes you can just see there must have been a builder.."

I agree with the beautifull world.. But I can't see that this world is so complex that it must have had a builder.

I wonder, for the ones who think this world is so complex that it needs a builder;
What kind of world could exist that looks like as if doesn't need a builder, in your eyes?
Hmmmm. Good question, but things like meaning, beauty and value are not intrinsic to either chemistry or physics.
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