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Old 12-16-2004, 12:33 PM
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4-i believe it desereves to be looked at under scrutinty as much as creation is.
You think it isn't?
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Old 12-16-2004, 12:43 PM
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science is all about scrutinty. The process of publishing in a Scientific jounal is pure scrutinty. Plus once you are published everyone who reads the article will scrutinize it and test it and if it is found wanting, expose its weakness. Where in ID do you get this extreme testing of the ideas that make up the theory?

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You think it isn't?
by the accepting members?most of the time, no i don't.just as you or anyone would say Id isn't by the believers.
there are not 'ideas' to be tested, it is a singular unobservable event.
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it is a singular unobservable event.
Is that abiogenesis, evolution, special creation, or something else you're referring to there.
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When you ask a scientist about the natural beginnings of life, you will be referred to abiogenesis theories.

This field is related to evolution, but really more akin to organic chemistry.

It's a little regrettable that Darwin used the phrase "origin of the species," since the word origin implies the question of first life. The theory Darwin proposed came from the 18th and 19th century studies of taxonomy. We were collecting and cataloging dried plants and skeletons from around the world, looking for relationships in their forms (with plants this was done with flower parts and seeds, with animals numbers and arrangements of bones).

The idea, when you place the similar side by side, that one may have changed to another, occurred to several other scientists at the time. Darwin just gets credit for the theory that slight changes in form may have occurred over time, that some of the changed ones survived as present day species. He never took the leap that all life may have come from one cell, or about the origin of that cell.

Abiogenesis asks a fascinating question. It may be the Alchemy of our times. The implications for science and religion, were it demonstrated to be possible, would be huge. Fuel for the "life is common in our universe" crowd. But it would not, in itself, solve the mystery of why everything is.
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all of the above?


simple answer:none.
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