Why Creationism over Evolution? Bring on the arguments (Creator, Earth)

[josiee.__@hotmail.com]

I think creationism is a waste of time, the facts arnt justified properly, theres no proof, and its just a completly rediculous idea, if "GOD" made the world, made everything, why is there bad things in our world, and you think this GOD is a good man, yes? What good man puts children, and in fact people through poverty, And terror, If GOD was real, he wouldnt be a very kind person now, if he was in control, yet still let these horrible things happen?

[Alex_G]

wow, my thread has grown so much since i was last on, and im far too lazy to try and read through it all at once:P i see a lot of ***** slapping posts aroung the place, awsome lol

If anyone would like my view on any recent arguments/ideas nows the time, while i have enough spare time to concentrate on the forums a bit

As for the most recent debate, as far as im concerned its foolish to take the bible literally. It seems no more wise than believing any random literature u come across. (all literature being a human product remember :P).

[Jesse Dawkins]

Why do people think a theory is something you dream up after being drunk all night.
Gravity is just a theory, as is the earths revolution around the Sun. They, just like evolution, are theories backed up by an extraordinary amount of evidence.

[Alex_G]

Originally Posted by Jesse Dawkins

Why do people think a theory is something you dream up after being drunk all night.
Gravity is just a theory, as is the earths revolution around the Sun. They, just like evolution, are theories backed up by an extraordinary amount of evidence.

Ah ye good point, i mean i guess it comes down to the parameters we set, parameters that vary between people. A lot of the debate on this forum can summerised as questioning the acceptability of these various boundaries. But i personally dont like to bring a language limiting factor into these debates, otherwise we might aswell be discussing the word 'theory'.

[Soldano16]

Originally Posted by Anti-World

Therefore creationism doesn't stand on just scientific fact and experiments

This is big news to the scientific community. They claim that creationism contradicts scientific fact.

Creationism has it's own definition of science but it's not science as defined by scientists.

[Mestemia]

Originally Posted by Jesse Dawkins

Why do people think a theory is something you dream up after being drunk all night.
Gravity is just a theory, as is the earths revolution around the Sun. They, just like evolution, are theories backed up by an extraordinary amount of evidence.

Originally Posted by Alex_G

Ah ye good point, i mean i guess it comes down to the parameters we set, parameters that vary between people. A lot of the debate on this forum can summerised as questioning the acceptability of these various boundaries. But i personally dont like to bring a language limiting factor into these debates, otherwise we might aswell be discussing the word 'theory'.

It is because they are mixing up the common usage definition of the word with the scientific usage of the word.

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Originally Posted by rojse

I suppose creationism gives people an exaggerated feeling of self importance when they say God created them, instead of saying that they are one of the many products of the evolution process.

Knowing that a diamond was produced by a chance convergence of carbon, pressure, heat and time instead of being placed in the ground by angels doesn't make the diamond any less beautiful.

[Alex_G]

But would the diamond mean the same coming from a crack dealer rather than a grandmother
for example? :P

I don't try to imagine a personal God; it suffices to stand in awe at the structure of the world, insofar as it allows our inadequate senses to appreciate - Oppertunity to squeeze out one of my fav quotes by Einstein