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Old 12-28-2007, 07:09 PM
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self-awereness used to be tested with the "mirror test"
can you reccognize that what you see in the mirror is you.

A lot of animals can pass this test... all the great apes, elephants, dolphins, some monkeys, rats, octopus... all know that the mirror shows themselves.

However this is a bad test for animals without steroscopic vision... such as deer, rabbits and horses. This is because they can not see properly in front of themselves or form good high depth images.

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Old 12-28-2007, 07:54 PM
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self-awereness used to be tested with the "mirror test"
can you reccognize that what you see in the mirror is you.

A lot of animals can pass this test... all the great apes, elephants, dolphins, some monkeys, rats, octopus... all know that the mirror shows themselves.

However this is a bad test for animals without steroscopic vision... such as deer, rabbits and horses. This is because they can not see properly in front of themselves or form good high depth images.

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What about Cats and Dogs. I had a cat that attacked the mirror the first time it saw itself in it, but not anymore.
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Old 12-28-2007, 10:27 PM
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these things are not unique or exclusive to humans.
I think traits that are (a) exclusive to our species and (b) universal within our species, must be very few, and almost without exception physical ones.
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What about Cats and Dogs. I had a cat that attacked the mirror the first time it saw itself in it, but not anymore.
Thats another reason the mirror test used much anymore. Did they learn that the reflection was themselves or did they learn it wasn't a threat?
That call is impossible to really make.

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Thats another reason the mirror test used much anymore. Did they learn that the reflection was themselves or did they learn it wasn't a threat?
That call is impossible to really make.

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Thats another reason the mirror test used much anymore. Did they learn that the reflection was themselves or did they learn it wasn't a threat?
That call is impossible to really make.

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Ok, I'm not sure. Can't read there mind, and I see what you're saying.

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Anything a cat does is hard to figure.
That's true(looks around at his 6 cats).
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That's true(looks around at his 6 cats).
The thing with cats is that they used to be worshiped in Egypt...
...and they have not forgotten.
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I think they must be self-aware; it's hard to explain their imperious attitude otherwise.
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For those creationists who dont believe in evolution(They probably dont understand it). Evolution is similar to gravity, it is both fact and theory. Fact is evolution exists like gravity. Theory is on how it works like the general theory of relativity. If this makes any sense to you and want to continue studying it, wikipedia it. Watch heroes it makes evolution fun.
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