If humans evolved from apes, why are there still apes? (reject, evolution)

[Jayhawker Soule]

Originally Posted by jeffrey

Maybe we didn't evolve from apes. Maybe we evolved from pigs. Our DNA is closer to pigs then apes.

Good grief! How is it that so many are so willing to demonstrate so much ignorance on this subject? At what point does willful ignorance become irresponsible, if not criminal, negligence?

[jeffrey]

Originally Posted by Jayhawker Soule

Good grief! How is it that so many are so willing to demonstrate so much ignorance on this subject? At what point does willful ignorance become irresponsible, if not criminal, negligence?

It was a joke. As in 'Men are pigs'

[robtex]

In addressing Paul's opening post I had a yahoo arguement one time with a creationists that is applicable to this thread. She said, "Darwin was wrong." Assuming like most creationsist she didn't know squat about Darwin or evolution, I asked her how much she had read about Darwin or evolution. She said nothing. I asked her how she knew the theories were "wrong" than? She said qoute, "Because God is right." I think the notion that "God is right" is the end-all be all to most creationsist arguements. AV1611'ers are big on the qoute of, "God said it, I believe it, that settles it."

The arguement "why do apes still exists" is maybe not as much of an arguement against evolution, as Paul pointed out anyone who would state such a comment is ignorant of evolution, but rather a common dismissal of the need to look at any other theory outside of the Bible or holy book in their religion.

[Atheist_Dave]

I have come across this argument so many times. They cant get it into their head, that a species does not evolve, a populations does. I explain to them that somehow they may be separated from all of their kind, and put into a slightly different environment which causes different genes to have beneficial effects, and they say "but the bible says not", and I cry and rip my hair out

But yeh it is an annoying argument, they think somehow evolution is telepathically transmitted across the whole species or something... anyways, Im done.

Peace x

[Seyorni]

This is more than willful ignorance. It is deliberate and deceitful propaganda. It is pandering to the uneducated and sophophobic. It is an intentional Big Lie.

[michel]

Originally Posted by Atheist_Dave

I have come across this argument so many times. They cant get it into their head, that a species does not evolve, a populations does. I explain to them that somehow they may be separated from all of their kind, and put into a slightly different environment which causes different genes to have beneficial effects, and they say "but the bible says not", and I cry and rip my hair out

But yeh it is an annoying argument, they think somehow evolution is telepathically transmitted across the whole species or something... anyways, Im done.

Peace x

And that was in London ????

[Ibrahim Al-Amin]

Originally Posted by Halcyon

If our DNA were closer to a pig than a chimp, then we'd look more like a pig than a chimp. But we don't.

Well, not all of us.

[ch'ang]

Why did some not evolve? Maybe because they were smarter then the ones that did? Just a thought.

Maybe we didn't evolve from apes. Maybe we evolved from pigs. Our DNA is closer to pigs then apes. There's something to think about. Oink oink.

We did not evolve from pigs or apes or any other animal today, we share a common ancestor with apes and nothing more. If you want to take it all the way back we share a common ancestor with everything but it is more useful to only talk about recent ones.

[angellous_evangellous]

Originally Posted by ch'ang

We did not evolve from pigs or apes or any other animal today, we share a common ancestor with apes and nothing more. If you want to take it all the way back we share a common ancestor with everything but it is more useful to only talk about recent ones.

That's what I was going to say. It's rather anachronistic to say that we evoloved from something identical to the modern ape. We didn't evovle from apes that exist today, but from a common ancestor. There are still apes today because of natural selection.

Duh...

[Tiberius]

I've found that an analogy with cars can sometimes help people understand the idea of evolution of Humans from apes.

It's like saying, "if a Porsche evolved from a Landcruiser, why are there still Landcruisers?"

Porsches didn't "evolve" from Landcruisers. it's more accurate to say that Porsches and landcruisers both evolved from an earlier type of car, let's say the Model T Ford.

As time went on, some cars took the parts of the Model T that were adapted to travelling over rough terrain and enh