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Old 08-17-2005, 05:24 AM
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You need to study evolution to know what Im talking about.
I have studied evolution, and I still don't know what you're talking about. What makes you think that "At some stage the creatures evolving would be incomputable genealogically"
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Old 08-17-2005, 05:29 AM
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At some stage the creatures evolving would be incomputable genealogically, ( meaning incompatible to mate) assuming there was a transition from cold blooded to warm blooded, as it is believed so far. You need to study evolution to know what Im talking about.
I have studied evolution. Now, tell me what your inability to mate with a lizard has to do with anything.
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Old 08-17-2005, 05:34 AM
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I have studied evolution, and I still don't know what you're talking about. What makes you think that "At some stage the creatures evolving would be incomputable genealogically"
Well, it is nature’s way of protecting its species. It is probably for the same reason chimpanzees and humans cannot produce offsprings, even tho we are 99.8% genealogically compatible.
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Chimps can mate with chimps. Unless they evolved into two completely different species, they could mate. And even then, they might be able to mate. Look at the large cats.
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Old 08-17-2005, 05:52 AM
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Chimps can mate with chimps. Unless they evolved into two completely different species, they could mate. And even then, they might be able to mate. Look at the large cats.
You might be confusing the two evolutions. I’m saying that macro evolution is impossible but you are basing your theory on micro. Only in the last ten years or so a different outlook towards evolution has evolved. Some of the Ideas might be still from the old times. Since the start of DNA mapping, we have discovered, only minimal change is possible and that is due to human intervention. Most likely, this forced change could never happen in nature, not even over several billion years.
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You might be confusing the two evolutions. I’m saying that macro evolution is impossible but you are basing your theory on micro.
What mystical force limits "micro evolution" over a period of som 3.9 billion years?
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Old 08-17-2005, 06:07 AM
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What mystical force limits "micro evolution" over a period of som 3.9 billion years?
Ok. The latest age of the earth is now estimated to be more like 150 billion years. Allot of yeas from the previous count of around 4 billion years and now they have no idea how long life actually occupied this planet.

Im sorry I have to love and leave you at this stage of the debate. But if you wish to open one on one, one, I would love to continue it tomorrow.

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I'm having a hard time believing the earth is 150 billion years old. Was that a typo? If not, what's your source for it?
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I'm having a hard time believing the earth is 150 billion years old. Was that a typo? If not, what's your source for it?
I really must go this time, but I would like more then anything to take up this debate tomorrow. Here is one of the links.

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For a start, crocodiles and various insects including mosquitoes have been found fossilized along side of dinosaurs, without any evolutionary change.
this is untrue... insects and crocs have both changed quite a bit.
Crocs doubly so, during the time of the dinosaurs they went from small long legged land lovers. To semi-aquatic varieities some were giants 50 or more feet long, some were marine creatures that could no longer go onto land, some became vegitarians. Just after the dinosaurs died out, some became land dwellers again and began to gallop after mammal prey.
Modern species only developed in the last hundred thousand years or so, some in the last ten thousand.

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