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Old 04-17-2005, 07:43 AM
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However, I do feel that a LOT of the misunderstanding and acrimony arises over people taking spiritual issues and trying to make them physical issues. God is Spirit. Those who choose to worship him must do it in spirit and in truth!
I disagree with this. God created the earth and through the world we can learn about God and his character. Christians should not hide from discussions about physical issues because that is our strongest evidence for God's existance! other than Jesus and the Bible, which if you arent a christian, usually have no validity to you. God gave us natural revelation for a reason. He wants us to see him in creation and that creation shows he intellect, design, and care.
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Netdoc isn't hiding from anything. He is interpreting the Bible in a far less literal way than the fundmentalists who post here, and it's quite irrefutable.
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I disagree with this. God created the earth and through the world we can learn about God and his character. Christians should not hide from discussions about physical issues because that is our strongest evidence for God's existance! other than Jesus and the Bible, which if you arent a christian, usually have no validity to you. God gave us natural revelation for a reason. He wants us to see him in creation and that creation shows he intellect, design, and care.
And I must disagree with this.
What do you mean by natural revelation? Is this meant to mean what you feel to be true?
Why would human beings be endowed with the ability to question, test, and learn by a creator if that creator did not want them to discover his or her mysteries?
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Here's a couple points I want to make.

1.) God created Adam and Eve mature, and also the rest of the world. It did not "mature" from eggs, seeds, ect, but was created fully "mature".

2.) The flood would explain the underwater elements on mountops and the large buildup of sediments on the Earth's crust.

3.) There was a fruitfly experiment done awhile ago (I think it was in London) to observe the "evolution" of the frutifly. Well the expierment ended up with the fruitfly actually losing traits and not gaining or evolving the slightest bit.

4.) The complex design of our minds and bodies are proof of creation.

5.) Take a good look at the world around you, God's creation? or not?

6.) Also explain the chances that the solar system ended up in the perfection that it did. And the fact the that life can be supported on Earth is incredible, what's the chances of that?

7.) How much sense does this make: "nothing times nothing equals everything". Last time I checked 0x0=0 not anything else. And believing in God is crazy?

Some food for thought.
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Here's a couple points I want to make.

1.) God created Adam and Eve mature, and also the rest of the world. It did not "mature" from eggs, seeds, ect, but was created fully "mature".

2.) The flood would explain the underwater elements on mountops and the large buildup of sediments on the Earth's crust.

3.) There was a fruitfly experiment done awhile ago (I think it was in London) to observe the "evolution" of the frutifly. Well the expierment ended up with the fruitfly actually losing traits and not gaining or evolving the slightest bit.

4.) The complex design of our minds and bodies are proof of creation.

5.) Take a good look at the world around you, God's creation? or not?

6.) Also explain the chances that the solar system ended up in the perfection that it did. And the fact the that life can be supported on Earth is incredible, what's the chances of that?

7.) How much sense does this make: "nothing times nothing equals everything". Last time I checked 0x0=0 not anything else. And believing in God is crazy?

Some food for thought.
Have a good day/night
- David
1) Yup, thats what the Bible says. I don't much care for Biblical "history" though.
2) Guess what? Those mountains didn't always exist. They where formed by plate tectonics and glaciers. Many mountians used to be flat earth or underwater. Thats why you can find the seashells.
3) And? You need more than one experiement. Also, those scientists where not observing evolution. Evolution takes thousands of years or more. Also, you can't expect flys to gain more traits in a controlled environment where they need fewer traits to survive.
4) Nope.
5) Yes, the universe is God's creation. Does that mean evolution cannot occur?
6) Pretty good considering that God created the universe.
7) No, believing in God is perfectly fine. Not believing in evolution is the crazy part.
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So is a cake, but it evolved out of flour and milk and a lot of heat!
who put those ingredients together? some one had to. You can't just put them on the counter and then they will become a cake!
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