Lisbon Treaty-is it an EU constitution (reject, advent, service, Zen)

[stephenw]

Originally Posted by kai

idont know they promised us a referendom then backpedalled, i dont know whats going to happen at all, they just seem to plod on dont they regardless, plodding on with this european superstate idea.

They do, this democracy racket must be driving them nuts

[stephenw]

It's not finished yet
Niel O'Brien: How can our No vote mean nothing to European leaders? - Times Online

[MidnightBlue]

Reminds me of the old story about a wealthy Republican woman facing the morning after Roosevelt won his third election. She put on a brave face and turned to the maid. "Oh, Anna," she said, "we'll just pretend it never happened."

The difference, of course, is that the EU can go forward without Ireland. If that's the way they're going to run it, that might not be all bad.

[stephenw]

In a piece of democratic shiftiness worthy of Zimbabwe it seems as if they're lining up to put another referendum in front of us. I suppose we'll have to keep voting 'till our elite get the answer they want.

[stephenw]

Cowen's Lisbon Downfall - contains strong language!
YouTube - Cowen's Downfall

[kai]

Originally Posted by stephenw

Cowen's Lisbon Downfall - contains strong language!
YouTube - Cowen's Downfall

that was funny

[stephenw]

Sarkozy has said today that Ireland MUST vote again on Lisbon. Hah! it seems the President of France is the boss of Ireland. So much for Sovereignty. This article in the Australian is spot on.
EU's disdain for voters | The Australian

[stephenw]

This is the latest from the EU
EU rule likely to leave a bad taste with bakers - The Irish Times - Wed, Aug 27, 2008 ( the Irish Times is a very pro EU paper)

This type of thing will help them no end when they make us vote again on Lisbon...

[stephenw]

Here we go again. After a brief independence seems we've swapped British masters for European ones.

While the final decision will be taken in December, Mr Cowen will hear demands from France and Germany that a second referendum take place as early as March 2009, before European elections.
Brussels diplomats have warned Ireland that it is isolated after angering other EU countries, such as Britain, by taking controversial financial crisis measures that benefited Irish banks while "dumping on others".
"The economy might be going into freefall and the Irish really did not help things. Sympathy for their difficulties is running out," said a diplomat.
According to informal briefing notes circulating in Brussels, EU officials are already in the advanced planning stages for a second vote to be held in Ireland in either Spring or Autumn next year.

from
EU steps up pressure on Ireland to hold second Lisbon Treaty referendum - Telegraph