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Old 08-01-2007, 11:26 AM
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As for the conflation of Christianity and Wicca, I agree that the way they did it in this case is a bit tacky, but I think sharing between religions (within reason) is only a good thing. Otherwise, my own brand of Pagan-Christian-Peaceoutness would be out of the question, heh.
Agreed.

Perhaps the liturgy was a bit tacky because to the people involved, blending Christian liturgy and ritual with neopagan rituals was new and unfamiliar. With time, people will become more skilled at learning and borrowing from other religions while at the same time honoring and preserving what is worthwhile in their own path. I think that is the best way to do it; if someone is a Christian, it's because their path contains a Christian focus. If nothing distinctly Christian remains in the path, the Christian lable is no longer needed.

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As much as I would like to be able to support the ordination of women in my Church, is this not the natural end of female ordination? Does this stand as prophetic to the Catholic Church, for example, of what would occur?

If we ordain women, is it inevitable that we will have no choice but to balance the Fatherhood of God with motherhood?
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God is portrayed with female qualities many times in scripture. Why does God always have to be male?
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I agree, Scripture has given God female attributes in some places, yet the Scriptures do not have us pray to God as Mother. Personally, I couldn't imagine praying the "Our Mother", as I think that confuses divinely revealed imagery which God has delivered us for our spiritual well-being.

Ideas of divine motherhood were not unknown to the ancient world- were quite common, yet, God is revealed distinctly as Father. This suggests a statment is being made. Thus, I do not believe it was a matter of supressing women, but of creating the proper theological language.

My question about female ordination is, were we to approve of it (Catholic perspective), would it demand, eventually, that the Liturgy be reworded to balance the Fatherhood with Motherhood?
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This is exactly why the North American Anglican church risks excommunication. Bishop Schori should have immediately put a stop to such monkeyshines.
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My question about female ordination is, were we to approve of it (Catholic perspective), would it demand, eventually, that the Liturgy be reworded to balance the Fatherhood with Motherhood?
Not in the least.
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Hmm...what is the consensus (if any) in the Communion in regards to feminist re-wordings of Liturgy?

I'm posting here, not to stir up argument, but really to learn more of the Anglican/Episcopalian mind on the matter of female ordination. I think the fear of allowing God to become Goddess is a serious reason why Rome refuses so adamantly to ordain woman.
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