The stolen generation (elders, mission, church, Christianity, Christian)

[PureX]

Originally Posted by kadzbiz

Dear PureX and Kai, you keep missing the point that there are people in our culture that don't and didn't agree with what was done and is being done to the aboriginals. Stop putting the yoke upon such people.

Did the actively fight against it? Are they still fighting to repair the damage done? If so, then they've already taken responsibility for their own culture's bad behavior and are trying now to repair the damage. Good for them.

[wednesday]

Originally Posted by PureX

Did the actively fight against it? Are they still fighting to repair the damage done? If so, then they've already taken responsibility for their own culture's bad behavior and are trying now to repair the damage. Good for them.

Repairing the damage means giving them money, they've been given enough for doing nothing. Also i am innocent, im not old enough to vote, and would you in your right mind walk out to aboriginal communites and say sorry', my grandparents took your children, i think not.
You seem to not understand these people, they want money, but lack the intellect to deal with it, so we throw more money at them. My problem with it is i pay tax to them and yet i go to the emergency ward and have to wait 5 hours because the government gave aboriginals a few hundred million instead of building another hospital.

[kai]

Originally Posted by kadzbiz

Dear PureX and Kai, you keep missing the point that there are people in our culture that don't and didn't agree with what was done and is being done to the aboriginals. Stop putting the yoke upon such people.

hey its your government apologizing not mine take it up with them ,i am just giving an opinion

[kai]

Originally Posted by wednesday

Repairing the damage means giving them money, they've been given enough for doing nothing. Also i am innocent, im not old enough to vote, and would you in your right mind walk out to aboriginal communites and say sorry', my grandparents took your children, i think not.
You seem to not understand these people, they want money, but lack the intellect to deal with it, so we throw more money at them. My problem with it is i pay tax to them and yet i go to the emergency ward and have to wait 5 hours because the government gave aboriginals a few hundred million instead of building another hospital.

so its a racial view with you then, what do you suggest you do with the "abbos"

[wednesday]

Originally Posted by kai

so its a racial view with you then, what do you suggest you do with the "abbos"

Not entirely no, i just disagree with giving "äboriginals" money when the common political goal at present is to ''únite'' Australia. I don't think this is possible when we are paying one group and not the other, its not the aboriginals that are doing it tough. Whole communities in north Queensland are flooded, they are key to our exports but will not see much government support.
What im trying to say in short is that throwing money at the aboriginals as compensation for the 'stolen generation' could be best used somewhere else. I can't see what money will do to ease their suffering when unfortunately prospects for aboriginals are rare outside their own communities. Do you understand my point or do you think im just being racist?

[kai]

Originally Posted by wednesday

Not entirely no, i just disagree with giving "äboriginals" money when the common political goal at present is to ''únite'' Australia. I don't think this is possible when we are paying one group and not the other, its not the aboriginals that are doing it tough. Whole communities in north Queensland are flooded, they are key to our exports but will not see much government support.
What im trying to say in short is that throwing money at the aboriginals as compensation for the 'stolen generation' could be best used somewhere else. I can't see what money will do to ease their suffering when unfortunately prospects for aboriginals are rare outside their own communities. Do you understand my point or do you think im just being racist?

i get your point but if it was white australians that had their children took away would you think they were entitled to compensation

[wednesday]

Originally Posted by kai

i get your point but if it was white australians that had their children took away would you think they were entitled to compensation

A fair point. I would accept to pay them compensation if it wasn't for the fact that last year the Howard Government granted them an intervention ($200,000,000 +) in order to try and reduce mortality rates, and make their society comparable to ours. That is the main reason why i do not feel they deserve more money in this case.
To answer your question i'd want some kind of compensation, however, it would be wrong if i lived my life via government benefits.
Additionally, do you feel it is the responsibility of todays generation to compensate for the mistakes of the past, much like Germany still feels shame for the holocaust?

[kai]

in the end its up to you if you feel shame or not! the same with Germany its up to them, the same with slavery ,the British empire etc etc etc the only difference is this is the most recent of these events and there are surviving victims

[PureX]

It's like raping a woman and then throwing money at her to "forgive" what you've done. Of course it won't work. On top of the original humiliation, now you've made her a whore as well.