Modern Deism (Creator, Deists, tradition, theist, verse)

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A good site to browse if you are interested in, or want to find out about, Deism.

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Deism is the real default position for a disbeliever in an intercessional or immanent God. C'mon guys...non-theists should value it highly. It's a wonderful product; it has naturalism, Reason, logic, science, and objectivity! Give it a try, read the linky...

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Thanks for the link. I'd frubal you but I need to spread it around first .

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Originally Posted by Fluffy

Thanks for the link. I'd frubal you but I need to spread it around first .

I fruballed you for the reply, cheers Fluffster!

[Halcyon]

Originally Posted by Random

Deism is the real default position for a disbeliever in an intercessional or immanent God. C'mon guys...non-theists should value it highly. It's a wonderful product; it has naturalism, Reason, logic, science, and objectivity! Give it a try, read the linky...

It's the default position for someone who disbelieves in a personal God, but who still believes a divine intelligence created the universe, so it's not all that valuable to non-theists IMHO.

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I've spent time at many of the bigger Deism sites, and this one is not my favorite. This guy is evangelical about it (selling bumper stickers, anti-tracts, and the like) and he is also very political. He talks a lot of trash about religious people. For a gentler deistic message, this one is good:

Positive Deism

Originally Posted by Halcyon

It's the default position for someone who disbelieves in a personal God, but who still believes a divine intelligence created the universe, so it's not all that valuable to non-theists IMHO.

Though this is the traditional position and many still hold it, not all deists believe in an intelligent or even conscious creator. A significant number I've run across just believe in some kind of causal force that may not be conscious or aware.

[Halcyon]

Originally Posted by Wandered Off

Though this is the traditional position and many still hold it, not all deists believe in an intelligent or even conscious creator. A significant number I've run across just believe in some kind of causal force that may not be conscious or aware.

Interesting. So, do they usually consider this force divine in nature?

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Originally Posted by Halcyon

Interesting. So, do they usually consider this force divine in nature?

Not in the usual sense, I think. I don't think they worship it, for example. It's more of a label, as far as I can tell.

Still, this view is not the majority by any means. I suspect most are exactly as you described, just not all.