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Old 11-17-2008, 08:10 AM
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I wonder if the passage of Prop 8 will stir up more trouble for the Religious Right than they come to think it was worth?
nope, no trouble here, Those who are advocating anarchy and trying to intimidate us out of changing our minds are going to realize that it is in vain.
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Old 11-17-2008, 08:36 AM
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nope, no trouble here, Those who are advocating anarchy and trying to intimidate us out of changing our minds are going to realize that it is in vain.
I don't want to intimidate you, I want to educate you. I want to show you that you have nothing to fear from me and my family having legal rights. I am just as much a citizen as you are and I believe I should be allowed the same rights you and your partner enjoy.

Anarchy? Last week I was called a socialist.
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I don't want to intimidate you, I want to educate you. I want to show you that you have nothing to fear from me and my family having legal rights. I am just as much a citizen as you are and I believe I should be allowed the same rights you and your partner enjoy.

Anarchy? Last week I was called a socialist.
sorry, But i don't have a "partner" I have a Marriage, a wife, and a daughter.

Same-Sex marriage is a blatant attack on the institution of marriage and a perversion to The Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Gender is part of our divine heritage, man and woman together have the opportunity to have an eternal progression through their seed. marriage was meant to be eternal but was lost along with other important eternal truths. thankfully the truth has been restored and we will do whatever we can to protect the family unit as ordained by God from before the foundation of this world.
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sorry, But i don't have a "partner" I have a Marriage, a wife, and a daughter.

Same-Sex marriage is a blatant attack on the institution of marriage and a perversion to The Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Gender is part of our divine heritage, man and woman together have the opportunity to have an eternal progression through their seed. marriage was meant to be eternal but was lost along with other important eternal truths. thankfully the truth has been restored and we will do whatever we can to protect the family unit as ordained by God from before the foundation of this world.
Yup, and fifty years ago it was illegal for my wife and I to get married. I'm white, she's black. I would also have been barred from adopting my daughter (also black). Some of the same Bible passages (and some others) were used to defend those legal prohibitions as are being used to defend Prop 8 today.
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sorry, But i don't have a "partner" I have a Marriage, a wife, and a daughter.

Same-Sex marriage is a blatant attack on the institution of marriage and a perversion to The Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Gender is part of our divine heritage, man and woman together have the opportunity to have an eternal progression through their seed. marriage was meant to be eternal but was lost along with other important eternal truths. thankfully the truth has been restored and we will do whatever we can to protect the family unit as ordained by God from before the foundation of this world.
I understand that is your religious beliefs and I respect that is how you choose to live your life. But I am not Mormon, I'm not even Christian and what your religious laws tell you is but an academic curiosity to me. I don't want to live by your religious laws and I definitely do not think my government should be making laws based on ANY religion's laws.

Is it your agenda then to force everyone to live by your religious beliefs?
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Is the existence of religions that don't agree with yours also a "perversion to the Gospel of Jesus Christ"? Why aren't you clamouring to make those "perversions" illegal?
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sorry, But i don't have a "partner" I have a Marriage, a wife, and a daughter.

Same-Sex marriage is a blatant attack on the institution of marriage and a perversion to The Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Gender is part of our divine heritage, man and woman together have the opportunity to have an eternal progression through their seed. marriage was meant to be eternal but was lost along with other important eternal truths. thankfully the truth has been restored and we will do whatever we can to protect the family unit as ordained by God from before the foundation of this world.
Yet certain religions marry homosexuals. They are "married". It is called marriage.

Why do you wish to persecute them for their religious beliefs?

As well, on numerous occasions it has been shown that the popular notions of gender, and as I have shown on numerous occasions, that the dimorphic nature of sexual identity.......are false. Yet you believe your God created these individuals. So either the leadership of your Church is ignorant in knowing God or they are lying.

That's not an attack. It's basic reasoning.
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sorry, But i don't have a "partner" I have a Marriage, a wife, and a daughter.
And when I get married I'll have a marriage and a husband. But I'll also have a partner. Because my husband is my partner, just as he is my partner now even though we are not legally married. We are partners because we are "in this together" That's what it means to call someone a "partner". are you and your wife not "in it together."?

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When did Jesus ever even mention homosexuality. and aside from that Jesus Christ's gospel was all about love. same-sex couples love eachother just as much as opposite-sex couples. How can a relationship based on love be an attack on a gospel that is also based on love. And for that matter how can letting more people GET married possibly do anything AGAINST marriage. If you truly want to protect marriage don't you think your efforts would be better served focusing on the 50% of couples who get divorced than on the 1 or 2% that just want to get married.

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Except we don't live in a theocracy; we live in a secular democratic-republic. And as such the "dictates of god" have no bearing(or at least should have no bearing) on our laws.
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