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Old 06-06-2014, 11:44 PM
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"America could be experiencing a decline of literalism and the rise of secularism, according to one interpretation
of a recent Gallup Poll.

The poll, which measured Americans’ beliefs about the Bible, found that 28 percent of Americans believe
the Bible is the literal word of God — close to the lowest point ever found in the survey. About 40 percent of
Americans said the same thing in the late 1970s.




Meanwhile, about one in five Americans view the Bible in secular terms, described in the poll as ancient “fables,
legends, history, and moral precepts recorded by man.” This was up from 10 percent in the late 1970s.

About half (47 percent) of Americans continue to say the Bible is the “inspired” word of God not to be taken
literally, which has remained relatively stable over time.
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So, what do you attribute this thirty-year shift to secularism to?
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Old 06-06-2014, 11:49 PM
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That's great news, we seem to be growing up.
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"America could be experiencing a decline of literalism and the rise of secularism, according to one interpretation
of a recent Gallup Poll.

The poll, which measured Americans’ beliefs about the Bible, found that 28 percent of Americans believe
the Bible is the literal word of God — close to the lowest point ever found in the survey. About 40 percent of
Americans said the same thing in the late 1970s.




Meanwhile, about one in five Americans view the Bible in secular terms, described in the poll as ancient “fables,
legends, history, and moral precepts recorded by man.” This was up from 10 percent in the late 1970s.

About half (47 percent) of Americans continue to say the Bible is the “inspired” word of God not to be taken
literally, which has remained relatively stable over time.
"
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So, what do you attribute this thirty-year shift to secularism to?
the theory of evolution would be playing some part in this....

but its also a fulfilment of bible prophecy to see a decline in a godly world view. according to Jesus prophecy of the 'last days' we read:

Matt 24:12 and because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off.


A love of God has certainly 'cooled off' among this generation. People used to be more religious and more inclined to participate in religion...but these days we see more and more turning away from religion. There could be many reasons for that, but one that Jesus mentioned is 'lawlessness'...as people become less and less respectful of authority, they become less inclined to submit themselves to the laws of anyone let alone God.

Its just a sign of the times imo.
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the theory of evolution would be playing some part in this....

but its also a fulfilment of bible prophecy to see a decline in a godly world view. according to Jesus prophecy of the 'last days' we read:

Matt 24:12 and because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off.


A love of God has certainly 'cooled off' among this generation. People used to be more religious and more inclined to participate in religion...but these days we see more and more turning away from religion. There could be many reasons for that, but one that Jesus mentioned is 'lawlessness'...as people become less and less respectful of authority, they become less inclined to submit themselves to the laws of anyone let alone God.

Its just a sign of the times imo.
So what do you see as a significant "increase of lawlessness"? And what are you comparing it to?
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I hardly see that as a "shift to secularism" because the majority (when compared to the results of the other choices) still take the more moderate view (as do I). As a Christian, I think complete Biblical literalism is nutty. But I disagree with the other option, too.
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A decline in Biblical literalism - a phenomena that was/is a relatively modern approach to sacred texts found most commonly in very specific sects/traditions of Christianity - is not indicative of a rise in secularism. It's indicative of a decline in Biblical literalism. I think they're mistaken to equate that last option with "secularism." It really isn't.
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Just an FYI. The King James Version uses the word "iniquity" instead of "lawlessness", suggesting wickedness, sinfulness, and/or impropriety.

As for the poll....I see it as a sign of hope. Similar to Psychoslice's impression, more and more people recognizing such writings for their true nature is a healthy sign of maturity in the general population.
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So what do you see as a significant "increase of lawlessness"? And what are you comparing it to?
lawlessness in terms of Gods laws.

As people turn away from religion, religious laws become less observable among people.

When people were more guided by the bible, they practiced sexual morality whereas today we see such morals are less evident. Its become quite normal to live together before marriage, extramarital affairs, divorce, homosexuality are all more acceptable and prevalent as people move away from biblical standards.

Even the belief in God is less common...this in itself is a lawlessnss.
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Just an FYI. The King James Version uses the word "iniquity" instead of "lawlessness", suggesting wickedness, sinfulness, and/or impropriety.
And the following use "lawlessness."
Matt 24:12

English Standard Version

And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold.

New American Standard Bible

"Because lawlessness is increased, most people's love will grow cold.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
Because lawlessness will multiply, the love of many will grow cold.

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and because lawlessness will increase, the love of many people will grow cold.

NET Bible
and because lawlessness will increase so much, the love of many will grow cold.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
And because there will be more and more lawlessness, most people's love will grow cold.

Jubilee Bible 2000
And because lawlessness shall abound, the charity of many shall wax cold.

Darby Bible Translation
and because lawlessness shall prevail, the love of the most shall grow cold;
Now what? Well the "what" is that one can pick and choose whichever version best fits their needs, which is the neat thing about the Bible.
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And the following use "lawlessness."
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Now what? Well the "what" is that one can pick and choose whichever version best fits their needs, which is the neat thing about the Bible.
...and also a very good indication of WHY many people don't follow literalism. Because they recognize the Bible to be just another book, adapted, editted, printed and advertised by human beings; not slowly descending from heaven within a pillar of light onto their bookshelf.
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