The Michael Jackson Case (incarnation, grace, hell, America, experience)

[robtex]

Michel I hope the truth is found and things go well but like Maize and Jewscout I don't know anything about it because I wasn't there. Michael Shermer says as a species we have a habit of looking for patterns and when one can't be made me make deductions to complete those patterns.

The deductions may be correct or incorrect but many times they are assuemed as if they are found on the same strength as something we have more intimate knowledge of. We american's who do not know Jackson personaly and have never been on ranch know as little as you do about the situation. I just accpet that i do not know and furthermore have no way of knowing . It is not bad for form pattterns..do fight our pattern making self is to fight our nature but to ignore the strength of our current dedcutions in relation to our other deductions is to be dishonest to ourselves.

[Quoth The Raven]

Originally Posted by michel

hi Jewscout;

I understand your feelings perfectly; I am sure that they are the same as most people's. The thing that worries me is why he became the way he did; from what I understand, Michael Jackson was abused as a child and is always trying to build 'the youth he never had' around him. There is a part of me that recognises the hurt that made him the way he is.

I get that, but at the risk of being beaten down by the Dr. Phil haters (the man does make some good points),as he once said,' You can be made a victim by someone else, but it's your choice as to how you progress from that experience. See Jewscouts family as a reference...obviously they all chose not to participate to at least some extent in the continuation of his grandfathers problems.

[michel]

Originally Posted by lady_lazarus

I get that, but at the risk of being beaten down by the Dr. Phil haters (the man does make some good points),as he once said,' You can be made a victim by someone else, but it's your choice as to how you progress from that experience. See Jewscouts family as a reference...obviously they all chose not to participate to at least some extent in the continuation of his grandfathers problems.

You do make a valid point, and I admire Jewscouts familly's resillience. I think we ought to consider this thread as closed. Had I realized the upset it would evoke, I would not have brought it up.

[Bastet]

Well, while not being able to comment one way or another on the man's innocence (having not been there and all), I will say this: he will not go to jail, even if he is convicted. I believe he'll kill himself first.

[morgan]

I dont get it..he was so darn cute as a kid. Otherwise, Im amazed at how much the 'stars' tend to get away with, and what they will do for a little extra publicity.

Morgan