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Old 04-26-2010, 07:48 AM
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Jesus was the only begotten son of the god Yahweh.
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Horus was the �only begotten son� of the god Osiris.
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The mother of Jesus was Mary. Sometimes referred to as Maria (Gospel of Mark) or Miriam.
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The mother of Horus was Meri.
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The foster father of Jesus was Joseph
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The foster father of Horus was Jo-Seph
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The birth of Jesus was heralded by a star in the East (where the Sun rises in the morning)
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The birth of Horus was heralded by the star Sirius (the morning star)
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After the birth of Jesus, Herod tried to have him murdered
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After the birth of Horus, Herut tried to have him murdered
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Jesus was taken from the desert in Palestine up a high mountain to be tempted by his arch-nemesis Satan.
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Horus was taken from the desert of Amenta up a high mountain to be tempted by his arch-rival Set.
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Jesus was known as the Christ (which means anointed one)
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Horus is known as KRST, the anointed one.
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Jesus is identified with the Tau (cross)
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Horus was identified with the Tau

Is Christianity merely a knockoff of Imperial Roman Paganism (in turn derived from Greek Paganism, in turn derived from Egyptian Paganism), Hellenistic Judaism, Hinduism, and a mixture of other faiths of the time?

It took 'Trinity' concept which is its core concept from the Hindus and to show itself different showed its relation with Judaism to get more semitic converts.

It used trinity to attract pagans of Europe and used origin from Bible to attract Jews.

A Good marketing Decision indeed.
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You must get your facts from the Zetgeist. I'm Kemetic, I assure you most of what you just said isn't true. There are some similarities, but not to the level you described. Also, Jesus may have been influenced by Kemetic thought, but I don't see that all through his teachings. He was influenced by other things too. As for Heru-sa-Aset (Horus), he and Jesus are absolutely nothing alike. Heru was born a god, Jesus was born a man. Heru and Set fought for the throne of Wesir (Osiris). Jesus said his throne was given to him by his father. Heru was never crucified, that's revisionist junk. When Heru took his place on Wesir's throne he became known as the king of upper and lower Egypt, the king of kings and lord of lords. Also when Wesir died, he didn't rise from the dead in the same way the Gospels describe. He became king of the netherworld (world of the dead).
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Every once in a while people spam this here.
Not to be pretentious, but has there ever been an honest discussion on the real origins of Christianity here?

It's widely known for example that Christianity ripped off the entire Torah from Judaism. It also incorporated bits of Greek and Roman philosophy and transformed the Greco-Roman gods into Christian saints.

It would not be so hard to believe that Christianity absorbed legends, myths, and stories from all over the Roman Empire and Mediterranean, re-wrote them, and mixed and mashed them to create their new religion.
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And Heru's mother isn't named Meri, her name is Aset (Isis), the lady of magic.
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Look for yourself.
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Look for yourself.
I can understand if you get a bit defensive, but try and have an open mind okay. I'm not saying that Christianity is the exact same as Ancient Egyptian religion.

But do you realize if you identify as a Christian, you are already coming from a certain mindset, where you have been conditioned to believe something? I think you can believe what you want (so long as it's non-violent and doesn't offend others) but do you want to push the Christo-centric POV on others?

When the facts are so clear, I can understand that it hurts. It's a well known psychological reaction.
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I can understand if you get a bit defensive.
Um, not being defensive.

I'm just not impressed with your ability to cut and paste. I see no reason to look up threads on the forum when - if you're able - you can search for them yourself.
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Not to be pretentious, but has there ever been an honest discussion on the real origins of Christianity here?

It's widely known for example that Christianity ripped off the entire Torah from Judaism. It also incorporated bits of Greek and Roman philosophy and transformed the Greco-Roman gods into Christian saints.

It would not be so hard to believe that Christianity absorbed legends, myths, and stories from all over the Roman Empire and Mediterranean, re-wrote them, and mixed and mashed them to create their new religion.
There have been quite a few discussions on the origins of Christianity here. More so, there have been numerous discussions just recently about a historical Jesus.

However, the whole idea that Jesus is just a reinvented pagan god-men has thoroughly been debunked. Yosef has shown quite well that Horus and Jesus were not the same. A little more research into any of the god-men would show that the similarities are quite minor, and can also be seen in many other historical people, such as Augustus (again, just minor similarities).

As for Christianity ripping off the Torah, that is actually ridiculous. Christianity began as a Jewish sect. Again, Christianity started off being a Jewish sect. So they did not rip off the Torah, as they were Jews to start off with. It just later evolved into Christianity, after a split between Judaism and the Jewish movement formed. Even then though, there were still many groups of Jewish-Christians that were in existence for centuries after the death of Jesus.

As for incorporating other ideas into Christianity, that is nothing surprising or some type of conspiracy cover-up. Every religion, every culture, with few exceptions, incorporate ideas of the cultures that are around them. However, to the extent that you are saying, there is no evidence. You have to try a lot harder then just some things you found off the internet, but never fact checked.
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I can understand if you get a bit defensive, but try and have an open mind okay. I'm not saying that Christianity is the exact same as Ancient Egyptian religion.

But do you realize if you identify as a Christian, you are already coming from a certain mindset, where you have been conditioned to believe something? I think you can believe what you want (so long as it's non-violent and doesn't offend others) but do you want to push the Christo-centric POV on others?

When the facts are so clear, I can understand that it hurts. It's a well known psychological reaction.
I'm not a Christian, so everything you said should not apply to me. However, I still deny the supposed facts that you've posted here. I've even refuted them. Not because I want to push a Christo-centric POV on others, but because I'm interested in historical fact. Not some conspiracy theory that, once actually researched, shows that there is no real basis to it.

I would have to say that from seeing other posts by angellous_evangellous, he is not someone who is trying to push a Christo-centric POV on others either.

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