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Old 05-17-2009, 06:34 PM
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Peter Berger came up with 4 existential questions that define the meaning of life:
Who am I?
Why am I here?
How should I live?
What happens when I die?

In this way religion is described as a set of beliefs that connect the individual to a community and in turn to a sense of being or purpose beyond the individual.

Is Atheism a religion?
How do you define a religion?
Can we have a nomos in an Atheistic world? If not are we doomed to anomie?
Do we need religion to create a meaningful social order?
Can atheists have meaningful nomos and reliable morals or value systems?
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Old 05-17-2009, 06:46 PM
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...religion is described as a set of beliefs that connect the individual to a community and in turn to a sense of being or purpose beyond the individual.

Is Atheism a religion?
How do you define a religion?
Can we have a nomos in an Atheistic world? If not are we doomed to anomie?
Do we need religion to create a meaningful social order?
Can atheists have meaningful nomos and reliable morals or value systems?
I think atheism fails as a religion in "connecting the individual to a community"... few atheists share a common set of beliefs, but then so do few theists.

I try not to define a religion --that way I don't have to be wrong about it.

"Nomos" isn't in my dictionary except as an Irish band. I suppose we can have a Nomos in the atheistc world if their music is acceptable. If not, I think it may be a sign that we are doomed to anomie: yes.

I think we need only be to create a meaningful social order.

Atheists do have meaningful morals and value systems, so I suppose it's possible.
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Old 05-17-2009, 07:30 PM
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Old 05-17-2009, 09:45 PM
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Peter Berger came up with 4 existential questions that define the meaning of life:
Who am I?
Why am I here?
How should I live?
What happens when I die?

In this way religion is described as a set of beliefs that connect the individual to a community and in turn to a sense of being or purpose beyond the individual.

Is Atheism a religion?
No.

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How do you define a religion?
Religion is a set of shared beliefs and mythologies that attempt to impose social and moral values on the people whom follow that religion.

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Can we have a nomos in an Atheistic world? If not are we doomed to anomie?
Yes; the second question becomes irrelevant.

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Do we need religion to create a meaningful social order?
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Can atheists have meaningful nomos and reliable morals or value systems?
Yes.
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Peter Berger came up with 4 existential questions that define the meaning of life:
Who am I?
Why am I here?
How should I live?
What happens when I die?

In this way religion is described as a set of beliefs that connect the individual to a community and in turn to a sense of being or purpose beyond the individual.

Is Atheism a religion?
No way. It does clash with some forms of religion, however, while not clashing with others.

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How do you define a religion?
The questions proposed are a fairly good set of criteria. Although the last one (and arguably the second one too) seem sort of pointless to me.

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Can we have a nomos in an Atheistic world?
That's probably the best environment for a nomos, really.

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If not are we doomed to anomie?
No way! Why would you even consider that?

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Do we need religion to create a meaningful social order?
Not really. But it is damn useful for that purpose, and probably needed in practical terms.

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Can atheists have meaningful nomos and reliable morals or value systems?
We're the best in the game, if I may say so.
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Why am I here?
How should I live?
What happens when I die?
got another one:

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Atheism is not a religion, but at certain time, certain people who are atheist can almost have a religious fervor to their beliefs (or non-beliefs to be more accurate). There are even a few here (I won't name names). There are even some atheists who proselytize (well, maybe not exactly proselytize, I don't want to turn this into a debate in a no debate area ) Let's just say a small amount of atheists try to spread their non- beliefs to believers.
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