dear Theist friends..:) (tradition, atheist, God, Christians, Christ)

[.lava]

hi

For me, Islam is not religion of Muslims.

today, in my country and in other Islamic countries people who speak like me would be condemned. it is not because i am bad or evil. in this world, everything arrives with purity. in time, the real knowledge of religion would be ruined by traditions and desires of men. today, most of the Muslims follow traditions. it is not their fault. we were all taught by society first. society did not know because they were also taught by people who did not know. that is a chain reaction. we always had go betweens to teach us. and once you learned it wrong, it is very difficult to turn back to right one. but it is not impossible. because Qur'an has never changed.

my intention here is to talk to theists which does not mean this subject closed to atheists. everybody's welcomed. my point is, for me, Muslims and Christians stand in the same spot. therefor i call out theists.

there are messengers of God all around the world, in every nation. there is not even one single village that messengers would not enter. these people would invite you to God. they would not invite you to change your clothes, or change your name....they would say one thing only:

wish to reach God.

i would be leaving tomorrow. if there is anything you'd like to ask, please do! if i was taught about it, i would share it.

also, i am open to any questions from anyone.


thank you for your time

[mball1297]

What do you mean you'll be leaving tomorrow?

[.lava]

Originally Posted by mball1297

What do you mean you'll be leaving tomorrow?

that means i am going away

[mball1297]

Originally Posted by .lava

that means i am going away

Where, and for how long?

[Scuba Pete]

Have fun! Are you headed to Mecca?

[.lava]

Originally Posted by mball1297

Where, and for how long?

countryside, at least for 6 months.

[.lava]

Originally Posted by Scuba Pete

Have fun! Are you headed to Mecca?

no, not Mecca
thank you for your kind wishes!

[Mike182]

Originally Posted by .lava

hi

For me, Islam is not religion of Muslims.

today, in my country and in other Islamic countries people who speak like me would be condemned. it is not because i am bad or evil. in this world, everything arrives with purity. in time, the real knowledge of religion would be ruined by traditions and desires of men. today, most of the Muslims follow traditions. it is not their fault. we were all taught by society first. society did not know because they were also taught by people who did not know. that is a chain reaction. we always had go betweens to teach us. and once you learned it wrong, it is very difficult to turn back to right one. but it is not impossible. because Qur'an has never changed.

my intention here is to talk to theists which does not mean this subject closed to atheists. everybody's welcomed. my point is, for me, Muslims and Christians stand in the same spot. therefor i call out theists.

there are messengers of God all around the world, in every nation. there is not even one single village that messengers would not enter. these people would invite you to God. they would not invite you to change your clothes, or change your name....they would say one thing only:

wish to reach God.

i would be leaving tomorrow. if there is anything you'd like to ask, please do! if i was taught about it, i would share it.

also, i am open to any questions from anyone.


thank you for your time

i know that Muslims claim the Qur'an has never been changed or altered since it was first written... i haven't done nearly enough study to know if that is historically correct or not. i do have a question though, what about the Hadith? was that written by Muhammad or was it written later/by others? has that been changed over time?

Edit: have fun, where ever it is you are moving to! i know we've not seen eye to eye on a fair few topics, but it's been fun discussing with you, and i thank you for always keeping our discussions peaceful and civil

[mball1297]

Originally Posted by .lava