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Old 05-09-2008, 12:25 PM
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if nature is truth to you and homosexuality is found in over 140 species in nature, then you must not have any issues with it.

if you follow mother-earth's nature of reality.

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Why? Because there are so many holes in theology and it's easy to pick on the 'beliefs' of religion?



Just look around in 'nature' itself. Remember mankind only became such a corrupt group isolating its own desires within mother-earth's nature of reality.

So nature to me represents the truth; men/women can decieve and lie for their own needs.

Heck, just read most of the posts on this thread! Many are simply jousting for position to share how 'cute' they are. Where in an articulation setting covering such controversy should be geared towards finding solutions rather than seeming to pardon the existence of proprietary to the selfish interplay which is homosexuality.

Not a thing in existence can pursue and color a lie which such flare as men/women protecting their own desires and needs. Even when the pursuit is a 'loss to the commn'................... 'bad' imposition to existence, by choice!
the selfish interplay which is homosexuality? as i said earlier, your descriptions of homosexuality are bordering on offensive, and this one is no different.
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Doesn't make it wrong either, nature abounds with homosexuality, many animal species display the behaviour, it has biological imperitive and thus exists.
Homosexuality is not a bad thing thing at all in many situations.... for example its a shame it only barely reduces population growth, handy when resources are getting scarcer, the world more crowded, we should be encouraging it!

Gay is green lol
But the question was whether it goes against the natural law of things. The answer is yes.
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Right, well, getting back to the question of religion and homosexuality, I've found a pretty good online resource for you, Andrew (if you're still around).

Homosexuality and Religion - ReligionFacts

A quick tally of the articles would suggest the best religious choice for a gay man would be Ancient Greek Polytheism. You're OK with most forms of Buddhism, but it's touch and go with Vajrayana (Tibetan). Christians don't have a coherent position - some sects will condemn you for it (ie. the Westboro Baptist Church) while others (ie. the United Church, Anglicans, and the Metropolitan Community Church) have no problem with it. Hinduism is OK with it, but you'll want to steer clear of Islam and Judaism. Sikhism is touch and go.

Hope that helps! My suggestion would be to go ahead and try believing in God if you feel you must, then if you want some company in your God-worshipping, try to find a congregation that loves and accepts you as you are.
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But the question was whether it goes against the natural law of things. The answer is yes.
Somebody better tell that to the monkeys, octopi, dolphins, canines, penguins, birds, beetles, sheep and fruit bats.

Just to be clear, are you saying God screwed up when he wrote the "natural law of things", accidentally allowing for rampant homosexuality throughout the whole of creation? Or are you saying "the natural law" as written by God can not be understood by the empirical observation of creation? Or are you saying something else altogether?

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just a simple theory any appropriate Law should be universal, If all the Humans become homosexuals mankind would extint because of reproduction, but if all Humans are straight nothing would happen.
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But the question was whether it goes against the natural law of things. The answer is yes.
What natural law is that?

Or when you said "the natural law" did you actually mean "my religion"?
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just a simple theory any appropriate Law should be universal, If all the Humans become homosexuals mankind would extint because of reproduction, but if all Humans are straight nothing would happen.
Really?
Interesting that you believe that homosexual = infertile.
What is your source for this belief?
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Why? Because there are so many holes in theology and it's easy to pick on the 'beliefs' of religion?
No. I'm not trying to pick on the beliefs of a religion. Like I said, the OP wanted to find out what different religions thought of homosexuality. You have very strong feelings against it so I simply wondered what your religion was if you had one.


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Just look around in 'nature' itself. Remember mankind only became such a corrupt group isolating its own desires within mother-earth's nature of reality. So nature to me represents the truth; men/women can decieve and lie for their own needs.
Yep, I've looked around in nature. Homosexuality is a natural phenomenon. It appears in nature, so by your definition is part of the natural truth. So you are right; some people lie to themselves because they don't like to believe it's true. Maybe it's simply a "yuck" factor for them.

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Heck, just read most of the posts on this thread! Many are simply jousting for position to share how 'cute' they are. Where in an articulation setting covering such controversy should be geared towards finding solutions rather than seeming to pardon the existence of proprietary to the selfish interplay which is homosexuality.

Not a thing in existence can pursue and color a lie which such flare as men/women protecting their own desires and needs. Even when the pursuit is a 'loss to the commn'................... 'bad' imposition to existence, by choice!
Not quite sure what the rest of this post means exactly, but I think you've answered my question. Thanks.
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just a simple theory any appropriate Law should be universal, If all the Humans become homosexuals mankind would extint because of reproduction, but if all Humans are straight nothing would happen.

here's another simple theory: lets base moral arguments in reality, so they are relevant to what really goes on in society. the entire population will never be either gay or straight, and as Mesty pointed out that does not equate to infertile.
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