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Old 04-25-2008, 11:36 PM
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This is not in accordance with Islamic understanding of God's Oneness[/font]
and certainly not scriptural, true God is Omnipresent but not in His Essence, if this were the case God would be a part of His creation and therefore would not be Unique,
which is in essence the teachings of Islam.
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The messenger believes in what has been sent down to him from his Lord,
and so do the believers. Each one belives in Allah, "His" Angels, "His" Books,
and "His" messengers. surah 2, 285.
The word ''HIS'' in the above verses as well as yours, shows that these things belong
to God, and are created by Him, NOT in any way that it is a part of Him.
The Sririt here means Adams spirit that God created, i hope thats clear.

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This does not prove that God Has a Spirit, and that He is a part of His creation.
Sorry little of the topic,Do you belive Jesus(pbuh) was crucified or not?[/font]
It is not our bodies that are a "Part" of God, it is our Soul. This "Part" does not detract from God. Think of it like DNA, while you children have your DNA in their bodies, that DNA is not "subtracted" from you, yet it is yours.

The book deals with your question, as the Qur'an teaches:

SURAH 4 – 157:

That they said in boast, “We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah”; - but they did not kill Him, nor crucified Him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no certain knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they did not kill Him.

Here is a C&P from the book that explains it:

Another controversial topic is what is in Matthew 27 – 46:

And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lama sabach-thani?” that is, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”

Did God really forsake Jesus? Of course not! Jesus never actually said this! Let me explain; let us start with SURAH 4 – 157:

That they said in boast, “We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah”; - but they did not kill Him, nor crucified Him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no certain knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they did not kill Him.

I had always wondered why God would let a man murder one of His greatest Gifts to mankind. Of course I never questioned God about this, as I saw this as a mistake, and accusing God of “making a mistake” would truly be horridly sinful. Of course now I guess it does not matter as Jesus was never murdered!

Now for the million dollar question, how is SURAH 4 – 157 true, as well as all the accounts of the crucifixion of Jesus in the New Testament? Actually it is quite simple. What was written in the New Testament about the crucifixion of Jesus Christ is exactly how it was “SEEN” by the witnesses. It is true that Jesus had carried the cross through the streets. However at the point of the cross dropping to the ground for the nails to be inserted, the “Soul” of Jesus, which is actually “Jesus” was taken from the body. From this point the object that was nailed and hung on the cross was nothing more then a hollow shell, the body of a man without a soul.(The same as man existed on earth before Adam and Eve fell) This “body” uttered what is mentioned in Matthew 27 – 46 when the body clearly understood that Jesus was no longer in possession of it. So the “body” was actually forsaken, as Jesus had already left it.

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Old 05-10-2008, 06:13 AM
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