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[Troublemane]

Originally Posted by TruthaboutGod

1. Did you read the post that stated that God created Iblis, who later became satan?

Yup. So God created Iblis, who became satan....

Originally Posted by TruthaboutGod

2. Do you understand that satan leading us astray is from the Qur'an, not something I said?

OK but you quoted it in reference to satan, so i assumed you were using it as an explaination for your position. If not, please clarify.

Originally Posted by TruthaboutGod

3. Do you understand that the Bible states that God does not tempt anyone?

Yes, you quoted it. In James and other places....which is why I raised the question of why would God create iblis who then became satan, if satan is there to tempt man and God even encourages satan to tempt man. If God did not expressly create iblis to become satan, then God is not omnipotent (its the classic problem of evil). And if God does not want to tempt man to evil why does he encourage satan to do it? This is where I am finding big faults with your logic.

Originally Posted by TruthaboutGod

4. Can you point out where I stated that God created satan in order to tempt man?
5. Can you point out where I stated that God did not create satan in order to tempt man?

Um, you just said God created iblis who became satan, then encourages satan to tempt man. The argument is simply how can God create an evil being like satan if he does not want to tempt mankind? Please dont say its because he gave satan free will just like he gave mankind free will, thats absurd.--If satan had free will he would know hes not destined to win the final battle, and so should logically end his rebellion as theres no point to it. Why would he damn himself to eternal hell if he had free will? It makes no sense.

I personally don't believe in satan/the devil, whatever, so I personally don't have a problem discussing these things. I am merely interested to hear your explaination as to why you believe all these conflicting things?

[Troublemane]

Originally Posted by TruthaboutGod

What is God’s Plan? This question has been asked for ages. Many people feel that “God works in mysterious ways”, this is really untrue. At all times God knows exactly what He is doing and always follows His Plan. As God created mankind as a companion to God, God’s Plan is to “further the existence of mankind”. As we are God’s Children, He wants us to go forth and multiply in a productive manner. Is this not what you want for your children? Do you not want to see your children grow up and become a productive member of mankind? This is exactly what God wants for His children.(Mankind)

I simply cannot comprehend what this is supposed to mean. By this I take it to mean you are saying God just wants us to reproduce like rabbits?

I realize this is not a debate thread, but my friend Truth you have opened this forum claiming to explain to us everything about God, and so far I am having great difficulty understanding. I suppose I will just have to bow to the God within you and go on my merry way.
Peace & Light be upon you!

[DallasApple]

Can you answer questions about how God views specific sins...

Example... one that seems to divide people and is argued over..Divorce and remarriage?

God "hates" divorce right?..Its considered a sin right?..And once you are maried you are married to that person in Gods eyes for life ...So if you are divorced for whatever reason..Against your will..or you initiated it...or mutually agreed ....Some will argue that untill your ex husband or wife dies..you are committing adultery if you remarry...Because you havent "repented" of the sin of divorce for one you are actively sinning..And your second spouse isnt actually your spouse in Gods eyes(acording to some peoples translation)...So every day you are living in adultery..

Any thoughts or information on that?

Blessings

Dallas

[DallasApple]

Also...

Specifically what is "seperation form God"...Is it living in active sin (rebellion)even though you believe Him?..Or is seperation denial that He exist even if you live morally and strive to love and help other people?

Is a moral,kind and compassionate person seperated from God and doomed eternally if they deny His existance?..

Or....when they die..will they see God and pronounce..thats who you were and recognize Him and be counted as chosen?

Because if God is love??..and the message is love...isnt love an action word ?..So if you are love in action arent you in obedience? Regardless of if you have a dialogue or "relationship" or acknowledge Him?

Blessings

Dallas

[Random]

This thread clearly illustrates all that is wrong with this forum, pretend "free thinkers", wacky believers and indeed the Internet, the World and the whole damn Universe.

"Freedom is not free, it has to be paid for".

So who paid for all the freedom to be demonstrably stupid?

[DallasApple]

Originally Posted by Random

This thread clearly illustrates all that is wrong with this forum, pretend "free thinkers", wacky believers and indeed the Internet, the World and the whole damn Universe.

"Freedom is not free, it has to be paid for".

So who paid for all the freedom to be demonstrably stupid?

I dont know if you are referring to me or not..But I suppose my stupidity freedom is paid for by me..or by whomever has to endure my stupidtiy.Or whomever suffers the conseqeunses of my stupidness.

Blessings

Dallas

[John_672]

Hello Truthers,

I've done some thinking about the answers that you've provided and have come to a conclusion. I want you to understand where I am coming from with this conclusion, and why I felt it necessary to ask any questions at all...

First of all, you need to recognize how your actions these past few days might appear to others on this forum. You come on a forum which has the purpose of exploring and discussing all religions, claim you have spoken to God, and that you have all the answers. This gives the highly educated people of this good forum one or more of these three different impressions; 1) You are here to try to start your own religion, 2) You are here to try to convert people to your religion, 3) You are possibly mentally unstable. This puts me, and possibly others, on the defensive.

However, then you began answering your questions in a matter that proved that you were not interested in starting your own religion, that you weren't interested in converting people, and that you are at least as sane as your average man on the street. This leaves me with only one conclusion; you legitimately had a spiritual experience which took the form of a conversation with the Divine. Yet, had you approached this forum in a different manner, and breached the subject of this experience in a different manner, I wouldn't have doubted this from the beginning.

Discussing your personal spiritual experiences in a public manner is something that should be handled with a certain amount of diplomacy... which in my opinion you did not do, even though you meant no harm. Using diplomacy prevents much the teasing you are getting from other users, and allows us to take you more seriously.

I want to be clear in that I don't agree with everything you are saying. In my personal spiritual experiences, it has been my understanding that every manner of emotional love and the physical expression of that love is acceptable to the Divine. Similarly, it is my impression that "God's Plan" for humanity has nothing to do with child raising, but instead is to experience life, learn, and grow. However, now that I understand that you open to such discussion and disagreements, I have more respect towards you.

I look forward to debating with you on the finer points of humanity's birth-right to commune with the divine. Now do you have any questions for me? Namaste.

[angellous_evangellous]

Originally Posted by Random

This thread clearly illustrates all that is wrong with this forum, pretend "free thinkers", wacky believers and indeed the Internet, the World and the whole damn Universe.

"Freedom is not free, it has to be paid for".

So who paid for all the freedom to be demonstrably stupid?

Dallas, I don't think that this is referring to you.

[angellous_evangellous]

Originally Posted by John_672

This leaves me with only one conclusion; you legitimately had a spiritual experience which took the form of a conversation with the Divine. Yet, had you approached this forum in a different manner, and breached the subject of this experience in a different manner, I wouldn't have doubted this from the beginning.

Please.

I find it to be a rather pathetic attempt to be heard. Masking one's own views as God's is a trick as old as prostitution, though not as reliably profitable.

It seems that RF is a place that attracts people like this who exploit the membership to peddle their trinkets, and I suppose we have to live with it.