Religious Education Forum  

Welcome to Religious Forums
Welcome Guest to ReligiousForums.com . You are currently not registered. When you become registered you will be able to interact with our large base of already registered users discussing topics. Some annoying Ads will also disappear when you register. Registering doesn't cost a thing and only takes a few seconds. We provide areas to chat and debate all World Religions. Please go to our register page!

Home Who's Online Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Go Back   Religious Education Forum / Religious Topics / Comparative Religion
Sitemap Popular RF Forums REGISTER Search Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 08-12-2007, 08:22 AM
Willamena's Avatar
Willamena Offline
Religion: Just Me
Title:Just be there, doing that
Creative Thread Award:  - Issue reason: This creative thread award is given to you by your peers and is well deserved. 
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Canada
Gender: Female
Posts: 8,670
Frubals: 2925120
Willamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal Whore
Willamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal Whore
Willamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal Whore
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kungfuzed View Post
Well, here I am. A complete Atheist. Now what? By no means do I consider this to be the end of my spiritual journey through life. Should I just kick back and let life take me wherever I end up? Should I actively pursue something completely different? Or should I put all my energy into solidifying my beliefs so I can be impervious to all those who would deceive me? One thing that scares me is to reach a point where I stagnate. What if I stop learning because I already know everything? It's happened before. Believe it or not I used to know everything and omniscience is quite overrated.
My recommendation would be to put your energy into being you. The rest should follow, naturally.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kungfuzed View Post
Recently, someone in the forum suggested I try to see things a little differently, just to pretend as a thought experiment. All I'm doing is to try to see something from someone else's perspective - to take how they see the world and pretend it is my own belief, if only for a few minuets. I find this to be much more easier said than done. First of all, my imagination is pathetic. It takes a lot of energy just to visualize how someone else sees something. At the same time I also have to fight off my instinctual critical thinking that immediately attacks the new idea as if it were a virus invading my body. When I tried to turn my critical thinking off it feels like I'm standing on the edge of a beam on a high building and I grab on to the girder and won't let go for anything. Why do I hold on to my beliefs so tightly? How will I ever learn if I'm wrong if I never seriously consider it? I have such a hard time putting my own beliefs aside long enough to really understand and experience what someone else is describing to me. When you are presented with a new idea are you able to seriously consider it's validity without your mental antivirus software telling you "I already know what is true so if this doesn't line up with it I'm going to shoot it down" ? Can you make yourself really believe something that you currently don't believe, even just for a few minuets?
It does sound like you're trying to warp yourself (you as your beliefs) into a particular form, and I wouldn't expect that to be easy. Pretending allows one to circumvent the shape-changing - but belief is always true to oneself, so it's always going to be pretending to try to see another's viewpoint.

It is possible, with more information, to change a point of view. The library and Internet provide information (library's generally a more reliable source), and talking with people, too. WIth information can come new understanding, and with that we can find our beliefs have changed.

The suggestion about philosophy was a good one for a couple of reasons. One, philosophy is the practice of asking "why?" and that's just what you're doing. You've already started a philsoophical journey with that question. When you read about philosophy in books, you'll read about people's methods of answering those questions. You don't have to trust their answers to be the right ones, but amongst all the answers they came up with, you will certainly find one that resonates with you, that "makes sense." (Maybe even, ideally, a bit with each of them.)

Secondly, it can help you find the words to define your beliefs. I found that to be important, for me. If you have the right words and their corresponding ideas at hand, the critical thinking will work constructively to help build the idea of 'you'.
__________________
I have never agreed with my other self wholly. The truth of the matter seems to lie between us.
- Khalil Gibran

Brad Chat
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 08-12-2007, 08:28 AM
Willamena's Avatar
Willamena Offline
Religion: Just Me
Title:Just be there, doing that
Creative Thread Award:  - Issue reason: This creative thread award is given to you by your peers and is well deserved. 
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Canada
Gender: Female
Posts: 8,670
Frubals: 2925120
Willamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal Whore
Willamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal Whore
Willamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal WhoreWillamena is a Frubal Whore
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kungfuzed View Post
When you are presented with a new idea are you able to seriously consider it's validity without your mental antivirus software telling you "I already know what is true so if this doesn't line up with it I'm going to shoot it down" ?
I know I can't, I shoot down ideas all the time; but if I read it a dozen times, I can find a way to reply to it from my own beliefs without verbally 'shooting' the other person down, and that's a good thing.
__________________
I have never agreed with my other self wholly. The truth of the matter seems to lie between us.
- Khalil Gibran

Brad Chat
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 08-13-2007, 12:02 AM
Jeremiah's Avatar
Jeremiah Offline
Religion: Faithless
Title:Godless Heathen
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 725
Frubals: 174001
Jeremiah has a reputation beyond reputeJeremiah has a reputation beyond reputeJeremiah has a reputation beyond reputeJeremiah has a reputation beyond reputeJeremiah has a reputation beyond reputeJeremiah has a reputation beyond reputeJeremiah has a reputation beyond reputeJeremiah has a reputation beyond repute
Jeremiah has a reputation beyond reputeJeremiah has a reputation beyond reputeJeremiah has a reputation beyond reputeJeremiah has a reputation beyond reputeJeremiah has a reputation beyond reputeJeremiah has a reputation beyond reputeJeremiah has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kungfuzed View Post
I daydream alot without even realizing it.

I do the same thing. So much so that I miss what people are saying when they are talking to me, and it does make books hard to read.

But my theory is to get something in my brain, so I have something constructive to daydream about.


Here's a short easy read

http://www.neatorama.com/2007/02/06/...al-quotations/
__________________
"To be, or not to be: that is the question"
William Shakespeare

Last edited by Jeremiah; 08-13-2007 at 12:07 AM.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Similar Threads


Similar Threads


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:30 PM.


© 2008 Advameg, Inc.

SEO by vBSEO ©2007, Crawlability, Inc.