God? What is God? (Jesus, punishment, reject, Creator, Earth) - Page 4

Mary23 · #31 03-08-2007, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesThePersian

I would agree. Unless, that is, the Creator chooses to empty himself, humble himself and come down and relate to us (which I'm sure you realise is the central tenet of my faith). That's why it always amuses me when people say that view of God X is obviously true because it's more rational/logical than Y (a common tactic of monists with regards to Trinitarians as an example), but why should God conform to human logic? To my mind any God that can be encompassed by our rational thought, simply isn't God. That's why I'm glad we leave so much as Mystery in my faith - I'm instantly suspicious of neat logical descriptions of the uncreated Creator of all.

James

James! i wnt u to bring truth of ur argument. Look! i am here a simle girl. i can not say that i am going to belive this and that. i must have the proof to say some thing to believe. whatever u has said during all my post u never give any qoute from ur scripture.
Ok! let's look!
i am gonna say,
People, "i am a ghost"
and i am shouting lo! "i am a ghost"
people will surely laugh at me. But when i will show them proof, then they will come to know that i am really a ghost.
So, whatever u sy give the reference of ur truth.

Mary23 · #32 03-08-2007, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike182

there isn't really much do discuss in relation to my belief in a creator God. God exists, we know virtually nothing about this God, we have no relationship with this God, and this God does not enter or act in our world. your point of view will be that Allah is the creator God, and that you can have a personal relationship with him.

i just think that the God who created the universe must be a being of immense, nigh on if not infinite power and knowledge - for this concept to enter our minds would utterly destroy us, we simply can't comprehend the powers involved in the very idea of this creator Go, let alone relate to it.

NO! sir please, i want to learn fro u! don't do this. don't go away after living the playgroud. please, sir!
its not fair.

James the Persian · #33 03-08-2007, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mary23

James! i wnt u to bring truth of ur argument. Look! i am here a simle girl. i can not say that i am going to belive this and that. i must have the proof to say some thing to believe. whatever u has said during all my post u never give any qoute from ur scripture.
Ok! let's look!
i am gonna say,
People, "i am a ghost"
and i am shouting lo! "i am a ghost"
people will surely laugh at me. But when i will show them proof, then they will come to know that i am really a ghost.
So, whatever u sy give the reference of ur truth.

Firstly, my post was not directed at you and I couldn't care less if you agree with it or not. Secondly, what exactly do you want me to prove? That the Creator is beyond human understanding? That is, by definition, unprovable, though it seems pretty obvious to me. That God coming to earth is a central tenet of Christianity? Easy to prove and I've done so by posting you the Creed in another thread. That I'm suspicious of over-rationalised arguments about God? Afraid that you'll just have to take my word for that as it's rather difficult to objectively prove one's feelings to another. Actually, I fail to see how your request even makes sense in the context of what I posted.

I'm guessing that you want me to prove that Christianity is true. Well I can't, just as you can never prove that Islam is true, or that Muhammad was a Prophet and was visited by Gabriel or that the Quran is the word of God. Such things are not susceptible to proof which is why they are articles of faith. I can prove, and have done so, that your arguments against our faith are based on errors and misconceptions and that you do not actually know enough about our faith to criticise it but it seems that you won't even accept that. So long as you continue to ignore facts you don't like I cannot even demonstrate to you that which actually is demonstrable.

James

Mary23 · #34 03-08-2007, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Moses the God Archetype*

but the absolute truth is the absolute truth, this is bonafide scripture dating back to a time before the Koran was even made.

Yes I agree this scripture is before the Quran, But I am not satisfied ur argument.
For example, here is the text Book with old edition in my engineering college. This Book was recommended for the badge 2000 but now new edition is for us. But it does not mean that we r going to read old edition. Do u?
Quran is the new edition of Way of life given by us to Allah. Old scriptures have changed. If u do not believe then study the comparative religions, My Dear.

Mike182 · #35 03-08-2007, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mary23

NO! sir please, i want to learn fro u! don't do this. don't go away after living the playgroud. please, sir!
its not fair.

but i have said all i can say on the subject! it would be pointless for me to post the same thing over and over again. if you aren't sure on what i mean in any part of my post then ask me to clarify, but if you understand my post then you have learnt my position

Moses the God Archetype* · #36 03-08-2007, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mary23

Yes I agree this scripture is before the Quran, But I am not satisfied ur argument.
For example, here is the text Book with old edition in my engineering college. This Book was recommended for the badge 2000 but now new edition is for us. But it does not mean that we r going to read old edition. Do u?
Quran is the new edition of Way of life given by us to Allah. Old scriptures have changed. If u do not believe then study the comparative religions, My Dear.

My dear friend i will keep this simple so your intelligence can grasp this reality, the shrimad-bhagavad-geta never grows old or fades away with the changing times, it is ever new ever fresh being spoken by the lord of lords himself it is applyable even today thru practice my dear........by the way have you even read this most holy of books?, if not your opinion is not valid

do you even know what the vedas are the upanisads puranas etc.

Mary23 · #37 03-08-2007, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Moses the God Archetype*

My dear friend i will keep this simple so your intelligence can grasp this reality, the shrimad-bhagavad-geta never grows old or fades away with the changing times, it is ever new ever fresh being spoken by the lord of lords himself it is applyable even today thru practice my dear........by the way have you even read this most holy of books?, if not your opinion is not valid

do you even know what the vedas are the upanisads puranas etc.

Thanks! God finnaly i have found a reasonable person. I did not know much about Vadas and Puranas but i have all these Books.
I have came to this forum to understand religions, because i am student of comparitive religions. I know about Quran. But i want to know about other religions. when I have came to this forum I have clearly mentioned to others that i want to know about ur scriptures. But all were saying this and that and without knowledge.
only i have found u and Niekhiker sensible.
So, i want to discuss with u about some topics, do u?

Moses the God Archetype* · #38 03-08-2007, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mary23

Thanks! God finnaly i have found a reasonable person. I did not know much about Vadas and Puranas but i have all these Books.
I have came to this forum to understand religions, because i am student of comparitive religions. I know about Quran. But i want to know about other religions. when I have came to this forum I have clearly mentioned to others that i want to know about ur scriptures. But all were saying this and that and without knowledge.
only i have found u and Niekhiker sensible.
So, i want to discuss with u about some topics, do u?

Yes beloved i do want to talk with you

and exchange ideas that would good for me and you both, let us go forward shall we, many blessing to you beloved.