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Old 12-17-2006, 02:40 AM
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Oh and what brought this sudden discussion on I'm sure if it didn't have some benefit for the "masses" it would have been kept in higher circles

What's the story then ay?
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Old 12-17-2006, 02:41 AM
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I guess technically, many of us in a weak form, proselytize when we debate. When we debate, are we not trying in a way to convert others to our opinion?



(Taken from my trusty Corel WordPerfect 10 dictionary.)

If this is the case, I know I'm guilty as charged.
As for the question (in blue), not me. There is a difference between 'apologetics' and conversion. I have no problem with the difference between defending a position and changing someone's mind. I guess it's a defense vs offense sort of thing.

For example what If I join a thread specifically addressing a question a Hindu has posed regarding one part of Christian doctrine or behavior. If I post with the express purpose of diverting the topic just enough so I can start piling on all kinds of laudatory praise for Jesus Christ and dissing Hinduism.... or discussing how great the Bible is in great detail with my Christian friends on that thread, in effect hijacking it to praise my religion, I would definitely call that proselytizing.
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Old 12-17-2006, 02:44 AM
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What's the story then ay?
Hehe... if it had anything to do with the actual running of the forum, you can be sure it would not be discussed in a public thread.

It really is just for my own edification.

Really.
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discussing how great the Bible is in great detail with my Christian friends on that thread, in effect hijacking it to praise my religion, I would definitely call that proselytizing.
Ok cool... that's one key factor: hijacking a thread... off topic kinda deal.

Any more?
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The Forum Rules state:

For my own education.... do you agree it should be against the rules? (For the record: I do )

What type of behavior would you describe as proselytizing?
19.) Proselytizing will not be tolerated. This forum is for sharing, discussing and understanding other religions and ideas, not converting others to your individual religion or beliefs.

I have to admit that I was a little confused by this rule when I joined the forum because I thought sharing, and discussing my religion WAS proselytizing. From an LDS prospective I do not see a difference. This is how our missionaries proselytize. They go around sharing and discussing our religion. Maybe somebody would be kind enough to tell me what other people call proselytizing?
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Can non-theists p-tize?
Without a doubt, but I'm sure we'll see disagreement there. To me, while discussion and debate are usually poly-sided proselytising has only 1. One-sided broomstick beating with a belief system, or other belief structure theistic, non-theistic or "bright"... I'm saving myself from "Star-Trek 21 - The Wrath of Bob"
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Maybe somebody would be kind enough to tell me what other people call proselytizing?
Thanks for responding (so I will as well ).

That's kinda what I'm trying to do... get a basic lists of "key factors" to help me define the behavior.

Only one so far is that the behavior will present itself by a comment that is usually off-topic.
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