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Old 05-11-2008, 09:43 AM
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John 20:28 and 29 means nothing in light of Yeshua's supposed ascension back to heaven where he tells John,

Revelation 3:12
All who are victorious will become pillars in the Temple of my God, and they will never have to leave it. And I will write my God's name on them, and they will be citizens in the city of my God--the new Jerusalem that comes down from heaven from my God. And they will have my new name inscribed upon them.

He explicitly informs John he has a god. I'm quite sure John did not take him to mean he was God.

If Yeshua is God then at this point there should be no statements made like this. Regardless of how you try to spin it....In John 20:17 way before your mis intepreted John 20:28 Yeshua tells the women he has a god..("But go find my brothers and tell them that I am ascending to my Father and your Father, my God and your God.")....then as you can see right here...after the ascension he flat out says it THREE times he has a god.

NO...Yeshua is not God, he did not claim to be, he did not teach that he was, nor did his followers did not believe that he was.....
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Old 05-11-2008, 09:55 AM
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and informed his followers he was the servant, he wasn't as good as God
Now that is comprehension…

Mark 10:18……

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In Great Britain, [1] lord is a general title for a prince or for a feudal superior (especially a feudal tenant who holds directly from the king, i.e., a baron). In the United Kingdom the title today denotes a peer of the realm, whether or not he sits in Parliament as a member of the House of Lords[1]. The title is primarily taken by men, while women will usually take the title 'lady'. However, this is not universal, as the Lord of Mann and the Lord Provost of Edinburgh (2003–2007), are examples of women who use 'lord'.
Seems like Lord can mean a bunch of people……. by god!

Hang on Lord of Mann………..
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The title Lord of Mann (Manx: Chiarn Vanninagh) is used on the Isle of Man to refer to Queen Elizabeth II, who is the Island's Lord Proprietor


Had to check as it caught my eye……..

And since the interpretations of the bible being used are english, I thought maybe a little english word usage may assist………
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Thats what i meant when i said in UK, has lords by the tons
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