Do you believe we all have souls? (exodus, Buddhism, eternal)

[Runt]

Q-

I don’t understand what you’re getting at. Why would we need to look at ALL energy at the same time? Energy does not interact as a whole or as a “Thing.”

Energy DOES interact...

energy--->electrons--->atoms--->biological molecules--->tissue--->biological systems--->humans... it all comes back to pure energy. We are pure energy, but the particular arrangement of that pure energy gives you a human. Or bigger arrangements of pure energy give you other things.

energy--->electrons--->atoms--->molecules--->gases--->sun

energy--->electrons--->atoms--->molecules--->gases--->suns--->galaxy

energy--->electrons--->atoms
--->molecules
--->gases --------> "God"
--->organisms
--->sun
--->universe
--->matter

That probably didn't help for you much...I don't know how to explain it further...

That’s nice. But you will find that the majority, very large majority of people that study the hard sciences inevitably realize that the laws of nature govern everything.

Yes, well, they can have their atheism and I will have my agnosticism.

And as I stated, if you took the time to understand energy, all your questions would be answered.

The more I study science, the more I find that it helps FORM my beliefs about "God". But I guess it is up to the individual.

[(Q)]

Runt

Sorry, you've strung a bunch of words together with arrows - what am I to make of that?

Again, all I can suggest is for you to study energy and understand it rather than trying to guess what you may think it is. If you choose not to do so, it will be your loss as you will never fully understand that which you question.

[Death]

Souls do not exist, they're supernatural appeals to incredulity to explain natural phenomena and the processes behind them.

http://www.ahraii.com/brokenreligion/christ/soul.html <an article i wrote on the soul.

[Master Vigil]

only a little while ago, quarks did not exist. Yet now they are detectible by science. Maybe someday in the future science will detect god. who knows.

and yes they are affected by their belief. How about this, what if nature was god. Then everything detected by science is god. And nature of course affects everything we know of. Ever think about that?

And since nature is based in reality, what is reality based in? What if reality is god? what if in the end, everything is based in god? All of which science detects, is based in god? why is that so hard to imagine?

[Master Vigil]

and also you said...

That’s nice. But you will find that the majority, very large majority of people that study the hard sciences inevitably realize that the laws of nature govern everything.

Where did the laws of nature come from? What if the laws of nature are based in god?

[Runt]

Q, nevermind.

[Rex]

What a great post to read. You guys/gals are so interesting.

[Bendad]

Yes. My soul is my eternal self that endures beyond the life of my body and is responsible for all I have done or failed to do during my life. It will see the ongoing consequences of my actions and inactions on the lives of others through countless generations and therein find its joy or sorrow that will be its Heaven or Hell. This soul the imperishable conscience that makes me responsible for my life. A person my think they can get away with cheating others in this world because they don't get caught, but the light of truth within our own souls make us all ultimately accountable.

[(Q)]

only a little while ago, quarks did not exist. Yet now they are detectible by science

No, their existence is theorized through observation and experiment. They didn’t suddenly appear from nowhere.

Maybe someday in the future science will detect god. who knows.

And that is the day we can all sit down, hold hands and sing kumbaya. But until then that day arrives, the concept of gods is merely a speculative concept and I need not think about it until some sort of evidence to the contrary is provided.

How about this, what if nature was god.

There is no need to apply two labels to one thing. If you wish to call nature god, that’s fine, but that would immediately make all religious doctrines null and void. The need for prayer would be useless. Would one begin to pray to a rock or a tree? How about a planet or a galaxy? Or the sun. perhaps?

Then everything detected by science is god. And nature of course affects everything we know of. Ever think about that?

Then, nothing exists but god. Once again, you’re applying needless labels.

And since nature is based in reality, what is reality based in? What if reality is god? what if in the end, everything is based in god? All of which science detects, is based in god? why is that so hard to imagine?

It’s not hard to imagine. But I don’t let my imagination rule my senses. I simply look at reality for what it is and nothing more. And it doesn’t require the use of an imagination. Yet, to imply that all of reality is god does require the use of my imagination.

Where did the laws of nature come from? What if the laws of nature are based in god?

Again, that would require the use of my imagination. As well, to deem that the laws of nature are based on god adds unnecessary levels of complexity to already simple concepts. Science can tell you how something works but can’t tell you if the hand of god made it so. In nature, there is no evidence to suggest some sort of intelligence made the laws of nature.

It is ones own personal speculation that they want to believe gods made it so.

So, I would have to ask you, what law or laws of nature appear to be controlled by gods?

[(Q)]

Runt

Q, nevermind.

Should I take that as a confirmation you're not interested in learning about energy but would rather remain ignorant and speculative?

Is there a house of cards that may come crashing down if you do learn?

:wink: