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I suppose it might be in a Catholic church, but it isn't so in a progressive protestant church. We have kids that help out in the service, washing the cups and so on. I have seen them drink any of the grape juice that hasn't been drunk and eat the bread (it is usually regular whole wheat bread-- hey we're liberal :-)) except during passover.
I don't think anyone thinks anything much of it, though I found it kind of funny. And hey, I don't want to wash a ton of little teensy cups. For us, since it is a symbolic event, it only has meaning within the context of a worship service. Though I did think the original story was funny. --des |
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No offense at all. I was raised Catholic but I never understood all the condrictions the Catholic Church made. Just 'till recently the Pope declaired that babies that wern't Baptized that died do go to Heaven as opposed to going to hell. The Catholic Church 'makes up rules' as they go a long! It's true. Remember this, the Catholic Church is "big business," that's what their all about in reality, they LOVE THAT CASH! ![]() |
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As a former Lutheran who is now Roman Catholic, the "Real Presence" of Christ bodily in the Eucharist is a long-held belief. The consecration of the sacrament [either transubstantiation=Catholic or consubstantiation=Lutheran] signifies that the Jesus of the Upper Room & Golgotha is now among us. After the distribution the rest of the elements are consumed at the altar or reserved. Roman Catholics hold strongly to the belief that Christ's holy presence remains among us and chapels are set aside for the Reserve Sacrament or Tabernacle. Anglicans basically follow the Roman Catholic customs but are less likely to have processions [Corpus Christi] and some parishes do not reserve the elements.
Lutheran practice runs the gambit. Lutherans firmly believe in the Real Presence [that's what separates them from Calvin] but differ on what happens after Holy Communion. Most commonly, the leftover bread [they also use wafers] is placed in a special vessel at the altar and then set in a sacristy or in some parishes the bread/host is stored in an ambry near the altar with a candle signifying Christ's actual presence. Wine is generally not reserved or reused due to hygienic reasons; so is either consumed at the altar by pastor/assistants or in the sacristy. I can't image a Lutheran church where the leftover wine would be poured down a sink, but there is a special covered sink/piscina in the sacristy that empties directing onto the earth. The recognition of Christ's bodily presence at Mass is similarly expressed in all three churches [Roman Catholic, Anglican/Episcopal & Lutheran]. Catholics use incense, genuflexion, bells and some Anglicans do the same. Most Anglicans & Lutheran elevate the host & cup, bow, make the sign of the cross. Kneeling to receive communion is still the common posture though many parishes have removed the communion rail & communicants walk up the aisles for the communion. All three churches worship in much the same way following the ancient Mass that includes corporate confession/absolution by the pastor. First Communion allows children to receive holy communion at age 7-10 though I seen babies given communion [host]. Infant baptism is the norm. Confirmation in early teens. Last edited by happ; 03-01-2008 at 12:20 AM. |
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