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Old 01-20-2011, 04:07 AM
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Yes, thanks again, Eselem.
Madhuri (and you) are spot on in my opinion also. It is doubt or "ignorance" which makes us restless. Proper study and time are probably the remedy.
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Is it better for people to chose a religion in the first place or not? To what extent does the word 'choose' apply? Are subsequent changes in religion good? Does the value of these changes depend on the circumstances of the initial religious status? Does the value of these choices boil down to what the individual really wants at any specific moment in time? Does the individual always know what is best for themselves? Even if not, is the process of mistake and learning the real value?
Why might an individual ever choose to subscribe to any religion? To what extent is both sticking to any one religion, and moving between different religions demonstrating a misconception that spiritual enlightenment is dependant on an established religion?



Not sure why i answered totally in questions, i think my mind leans that way today. :P
I believe in God, that doesn't mean I have a defeatest attitude about religions that differ from mine. Unless those religions are causing harm or pain to innocent people.
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Old 01-22-2011, 01:45 AM
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In your personal opinion, is it better to find a religion and stick to it and make it work for you, or is it better to switch religions when you feel like it?

Of course if the religion works for you already, would it make sense to not compare it with others but rather concentrate on it specifically?

Just wondering what you might think
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English: Do not bother for sinner or any religious person, just think about yourself.

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Old 01-22-2011, 01:58 AM
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Thank you Chinu Ji
Where is that quote from, or is it your own?

My impression today is that we should embrace all, and take what we can to help us, but there is no limitation if we follow a single religion, as long as that religion does not limit our learning from all religions.
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In your personal opinion, is it better to find a religion and stick to it and make it work for you, or is it better to switch religions when you feel like it?
Good question, I think it depends on. First, I don't think we should make religion work for us as it will be kind of making an illusion a fact by nothing, but a mere acceptance and radical view. I think it is better to shift your position whenever you need to. If you think the religion you are following is flawed, then never hesitate to look for the truer path to take.

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Of course if the religion works for you already, would it make sense to not compare it with others but rather concentrate on it specifically?
Again, I can't frame what you mean by making religion work for us, anyway you should compare it with other religions as another way to prove it or otherwise to find it to be refuted by this comparison. At anyway you will confirm your faith and know if you need to convert or not.
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The most important thing is to know yourself. Once you know yourself, you can determine whether you need religion in your life, and which religion suits you best.
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Old 01-22-2011, 05:08 AM
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The most important thing is to know yourself. Once you know yourself, you can determine whether you need religion in your life, and which religion suits you best.
Thanks Alceste, in which way should one know oneself to know one's religion? Do you mean likes and dislikes or something else?
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Old 01-22-2011, 05:13 AM
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Good question, I think it depends on. First, I don't think we should make religion work for us as it will be kind of making an illusion a fact by nothing, but a mere acceptance and radical view. I think it is better to shift your position whenever you need to. If you think the religion you are following is flawed, then never hesitate to look for the truer path to take.



Again, I can't frame what you mean by making religion work for us, anyway you should compare it with other religions as another way to prove it or otherwise to find it to be refuted by this comparison. At anyway you will confirm your faith and know if you need to convert or not.
Thanks SLAMH
I can see your point, if you mean that the religion should be perfect, it should fit us. The thing I see is that many people find parts of religion harder to accept than the whole religion and these little things, such as diet, or clothes, mean the person is put off the religion. Perhaps these people should stick to it anyway and make it fit them eventually.
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Thank you Chinu Ji
Where is that quote from, or is it your own?
I hope you can understand puinjabi
The quote is devloped by old punjabi sages.
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You are a real "Sikh"
"Sikh" means "Seeker" or "Who always try to learn good things"

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Old 01-22-2011, 06:14 AM
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Sat Sir Akal Chinu Ji
I cannot speak Punjabi, it would be good if I could learn Punjabi one day to help me enjoy kirtan and Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji much more.
I like the definition of Sikh, as seeker of truth and good things
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