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Old 01-02-2011, 12:16 AM
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Yes, religion is such an interesting thing isnt it? I really do hope my view of religion is correct but thats the goal aint it?
well i am a little biased, but i am nor sure what the goal is.
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Old 01-02-2011, 12:18 AM
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Then you have your very own perception of God because the Muslim God amongst others ,does not allow you that leeway.
Actually, the modern interpretation doesn't. The Qur'an is explicit in the idea that all monotheists will go to paradise.
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Old 01-02-2011, 12:25 AM
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well i am a little biased, but i am nor sure what the goal is.
The goal is to find the truth.
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Old 01-02-2011, 12:29 AM
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The goal is to find the truth.
My friend, "truth" is relative.
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Old 01-02-2011, 12:35 AM
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Actually, the modern interpretation doesn't. The Qur'an is explicit in the idea that all monotheists will go to paradise.
Given that it is all up to Allah, the merciful (*giggle*), and that no religion, save Islam, is acceptable to Allah, it doesn't exactly bode well.
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Old 01-02-2011, 12:44 AM
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Given that it is all up to Allah, the merciful (*giggle*), and that no religion, save Islam, is acceptable to Allah, it doesn't exactly bode well.
That's one thing I never quite understood about the Qur'an. It says that Islam is the only religion that Allah accepts, but it also says that all monotheists, especially "People of the Book" will be rewarded by Allah in paradise.
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Old 01-02-2011, 12:56 AM
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Actually, the modern interpretation doesn't. The Qur'an is explicit in the idea that all monotheists will go to paradise.
The Prophet said "Whoever dies while still invoking anything other than Allah as a rival to Allah, will enter Hell (Fire)." And I said, "Whoever dies without invoking anything as a rival to Allah, will enter Paradise." - Sahih Bukhari Volume 6, Book 60, Number 24.
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Old 01-02-2011, 05:02 AM
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They are to an atheist. but not to a believer ,only their own religion is the true path, theirs is the true revelation, and theirs is the path to paradise or redemption. all others are false or corrupted.
This is incorrect my friend. See this article, for example. I quote from it:
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Thus Maulana discusses this in his Tarjuman al-Qur’an under the title “Qur’an ka perwan-e- mazahib se mutalibah (Qur’an’s demand from followers of religions) and goes on to say that Qur’an did not demand from followers of any religion to accept this new religion (i.e. Islam) but demands from every group (following any other religion) that they follow their respective religion in its original shape which has been distorted by them. If you did that (i.e. followed your religion in its original shape you will find that it is Islam to which I am calling you.
Now are you saying people like Shah Waliullah and Nizamuddin Awliya and Maulana Azad are not Muslims? Just so you know they are held in high esteem by millions of Muslims across South Asia.

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Old 01-02-2011, 07:34 AM
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This is incorrect my friend. See this article, for example. I quote from it:


Now are you saying people like Shah Waliullah and Nizamuddin Awliya and Maulana Azad are not Muslims? Just so you know they are held in high esteem by millions of Muslims across South Asia.

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I am not even talking about schisms between Muslims, but different religions altogether like Christians.

and Allah will only accept Islam as the true religion and its Allah's choice who enters Paradise.
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No, we don't!
The God christians worship is three gods merged into one God, but we worship One God who has no children, no parents, nor any partner, and nothing like Him.
This is a misunderstanding that Muslims have. Christians who follow the Bible believe in one God who is explained by pointing out three aspects of God so man can better comprehend what God is to man. From the beginning God was and still is the great is. To man, god's creation, He is a heavenly Father. He reasons with His creation through Spirit and provided a model in Jesus Christ of what man should strive to be. This is what Christians believe but know this, there is only one God.
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