Do Christians and Muslims Worship the Same God?

[J2hapydna]

Originally Posted by Caladan

I find it more simple to focus on that obvious similarities, connection, and relations, without trying to over legitimize any faith in the eyes of others. as far as I'm concerned Judaism has done well to establish itself as an influential religion, often I'm puzzled that many Muslims don't have the same sense of confidence about Islam.

Hello Caladan,

Sorry for the delay. I was gone on a two week skiing vacation over the Christimas holidays and just returned.

I have said nothing about which religion becomes more or less legitimate, by this research. I am not sure why you would bring this up? Personally, my confidence in science exceeds my belief in any religion, Judaism, Christianity, Islam or any other. For example, if someone was to tell me that mankind was created 6,000 years ago because some religious scholar says so, but scientists tell me we share a common ancestor that lived 60,000 years ago, I will accept what the scientists tell me. science does not discriminate on the basis of religion. This biological evidence is not being uncovered by Al Qaeda or Al Azhar University's Muslim scholars. Familytree DNA labs in Texas are run by a Jewish man, Bennett Greenspan. The chief geneticist at FamilytreeDNA, Prof. Michael Hammer of the University of Arizona is a Cohen Jew. Haplogroup and haplotypes are what they are. They have been discovered by scientists, indepenedent of religions.

If it was shown by geneticists that Muhammad and his tribe mostly belonged to some African Haplogroup, like Falasha Jews (as was suggested by western historians) while the Jews were closely related to some European haplogroup, I am sure western Christians would be talking about it. If Jews were some distinct group different from both Arabs and Europeans, I am sure you would be talking about it. However, as it turns out, Cohanim and Quraysh seem to belong to haplogroup J1c3d and share a similar Haplotype, so here I am talking about it. Whether this fact legitimizes or deligitimizes any religion is incidental.

By the way, Kurds and Armenians share Y haplogroup J2 with lay Jews. However, Cohanim mostly belong to haplogroup J1c3d, not J2. Secondly, there are some Ash J2 Cohens, but there are very few Separdi J2 Cohens. These two facts (few sep cohens belonging to J2 and the fact that more cohens belong to hap J1c3d than J2), make it unlikely that J2 was the signature of Israelites. Therefore, most geneticists are of the opinion that the J2 Kurds and Armenians share a common ancestor with non Israelite J2 converts to Judaism. On the other hand since J1c3d is abundant in both Ash and Sephardi Cohen populations and both Sep and Ash cohens share a common J1c3d ancestor that lived less than 3,800 years ago, geneticists consider J1c3d to be the most likely Israelite marker.

[dyanaprajna2011]

This is a tough question to answer, and it really all depends on how you look at it. Theologically, no, Christians and Muslims do not worship the same God. Even though both religions are Abrahamic, there are major differences. The Trinity being the most obvious one, as Islam is strictly unitarian monotheistic. However, if you look at it as "god-language", where "god" is seen as ultimate reality, and each religion is just seeing that reality in a different way, then yes, not only do Christians and Muslims worship the same god, but so do Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, Pagans, and any others. It's all a matter of perspective.

[kai]

Originally Posted by mattmcneal31

This is a tough question to answer, and it really all depends on how you look at it. Theologically, no, Christians and Muslims do not worship the same God. Even though both religions are Abrahamic, there are major differences. The Trinity being the most obvious one, as Islam is strictly unitarian monotheistic. However, if you look at it as "god-language", where "god" is seen as ultimate reality, and each religion is just seeing that reality in a different way, then yes, not only do Christians and Muslims worship the same god, but so do Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, Pagans, and any others. It's all a matter of perspective.

isn't the perspective defined by revelation in each case?

[dallas1125]

Originally Posted by mattmcneal31

This is a tough question to answer, and it really all depends on how you look at it. Theologically, no, Christians and Muslims do not worship the same God. Even though both religions are Abrahamic, there are major differences.

This reminds me of the: Do mormons worship a different Jesus?

The theological differences dont affect it in my opinion. The theologies came from the same source, so it is the same god in my opinion but a different view on it.

[kai]

Originally Posted by dallas1125

This reminds me of the: Do mormons worship a different Jesus?

The theological differences dont affect it in my opinion. The theologies came from the same source, so it is the same god in my opinion but a different view on it.

accept surely when your perception or view or theological difference comes directly from your god by revelation.

[paolops181]

Originally Posted by Caladan

There is one problem. Christians worship Jesus of Nazareth as God. Muslims view Jesus as a mortal man, flesh and blood, and as in Judaism the idolization of a mortal man might be the single most abominable act.

Not all christians believe that Jesus is God in nature. There are christians that believe in one individual God who is the Father alone. We worship Christ because God commands us so "Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." -Phil.2:9-11
Pls have your research.

[Egyptian Phoenix]

Originally Posted by mattmcneal31

This is a tough question to answer, and it really all depends on how you look at it. Theologically, no, Christians and Muslims do not worship the same God. Even though both religions are Abrahamic, there are major differences. The Trinity being the most obvious one, as Islam is strictly unitarian monotheistic. However, if you look at it as "god-language", where "god" is seen as ultimate reality, and each religion is just seeing that reality in a different way, then yes, not only do Christians and Muslims worship the same god, but so do Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, Pagans, and any others. It's all a matter of perspective.

I think Muslims do worship the same god as Jews, but not Christians. Because Christians view god entirely differently then Jews and Muslims do. This is just my personal observation. I think though that Allah had to be reinvented from how the Meccans used to worship him for this to take place. The Meccans used to worship Allah as the chief deity on a pantheon. The Quran even mentions this several times: far be Allah above the associates they ascribe to him.

[J2hapydna]

Originally Posted by Senedjem

I think Muslims do worship the same god as Jews, but not Christians. Because Christians view god entirely differently then Jews and Muslims do. This is just my personal observation. I think though that Allah had to be reinvented from how the Meccans used to worship him for this to take place. The Meccans used to worship Allah as the chief deity on a pantheon. The Quran even mentions this several times: far be Allah above the associates they ascribe to him.

It is my understanding that in pre Islamic Arabia, the pagan Arabs, who were a majority in the days of Muhammd worshipped a pantheon, with Allah as it's chief, invisible deity, as you have stated. However, the Hanif Arabs of Mecca (a minority) worshipped only Allah and regarded kabaa as the sacred house built by Abraham.

[dallas1125]

Originally Posted by kai

accept surely when your perception or view or theological difference comes directly from your god by revelation.

Sorry, I didnt catch your meaning..

[kai]

Originally Posted by dallas1125

Sorry, I didnt catch your meaning..

well God tells people how he should be worshipped. the Quran for example is the unalterable word of God . it lays out quite clearly what God wants and needs from us.


The Torah does the same.


A persons perception of his God is moulded by the religious documents he refers to ----no