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Old 09-04-2006, 08:45 AM
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The Orthodox Church does not, and never did, teach that St. Mary Magdalene was a prostitute. She is one of our most important saints, is considered to have preached the Gospel both in Ephesus and to the Emperor (which is where the story behind our red Paschal eggs comes in) and was never considered to be the same person as the unnamed sinful woman. The conflation of the two women was the mistake of Pope St. Gregory the Great and whilst the idea became popular in the west it was never taken up in the east. St. Mat=ry Magdalene is, in fact, known as 'Equal to the Apostles'. Even if she had been a prostitute, though, this wouldn't have been a reason to denigrate her in any way. Another very important saint, Mary of Egypt, was a prostitute and St. Moses the Ethiopian was a bandit and murderer, both obviously prior to their conversions. We do not believe, though, and nor do I know of any evidence to suggest it (other than in some apocryphal Gnostic writings), that Christ was ever married to anyone, whether St. Mary Magdalene or anyone else.

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I personally don't believe that Jesus was married because the Bible never says so. However, even if He was, it would not make a differance in my faith, so it does not really matter to me.
These are my thoughts.

It makes more sense to me that he wasn't married...as he'll be returning for his "bride"...the church. It really wouldn't surprise me at all if Christ was an unmarried, virgin when he was crucified.

But as Anade has pointed out...whether he was or wasn't...it doesn't have any bearing on my faith.
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We do not believe, though, and nor do I know of any evidence to suggest it (other than in some apocryphal Gnostic writings), that Christ was ever married to anyone, whether St. Mary Magdalene or anyone else.
Actually, they don't. They refer to her as Jesus's companion, and say that he loved her more than other women. But they never refer to her as his wife, nor suggest anything more than platonic love.
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Actually, they don't. They refer to her as Jesus's companion, and say that he loved her more than other women. But they never refer to her as his wife, nor suggest anything more than platonic love.
I didn't say they stated the two were married. I said that they were the only evidence available for the belief that Christ was married to St. Mary Magdalene. I didn't say that it was good evidence, but poor evidence is still evidence and this, despite it's poverty, is used by the 'Jesus was married' crowd. I'm well aware of what the Gnostic texts actually do say as I've read them for myself.

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I didn't say they stated the two were married. I said that they were the only evidence available for the belief that Christ was married to St. Mary Magdalene. I didn't say that it was good evidence, but poor evidence is still evidence and this, despite it's poverty, is used by the 'Jesus was married' crowd. I'm well aware of what the Gnostic texts actually do say as I've read them for myself.
Fair enough. I just felt your statement needed clarifying - the uninformed could have read your post as suggesting that Gnostic texts did state they were married.
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Sorry if I come across as being ignorant, but what evidence is there that Jesus had foreknowledge of the way and the time he would die ?
I think there is circumstantial evidence that Jesus knew exactly what His role was and how it was to be fulfilled. There were prophecies given to the parents of both John the Baptist and Jesus Christ about their respective roles, and I have no doubt these would have been recounted to Jesus as He was growing up. At the age of 12 He knew He had to be "about His Father's business" (Luke 2:41-51). He must have been familiar with the Old Testament prophecies about the suffering and death of the Messiah, and He clearly knew when His death was near because He told His disciples about it (Luke 18:31-33). And He seemed to have some memory of His pre-human existance as the Word when He said that He say Satan fall like lightening from heaven (Luke 10:18). Everything about His life and teachings indicates that He had a perfect knowledge of His role, who He was, and even many details of events and how they would fulfill prophecy.

Moreover, God the Father certainly knew when Jesus would die, and no doubt God would reveal to Jesus that it was not His will that Jesus marry a woman in His physical life. But Jesus will marry the resurrected Church, which is called the bride of Christ in Revelation, when He returns.
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I can't read this entire thread right now, but why would God marry a human? And why would He need children other than the ones He created?

Colossians 1
16For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Revelation 4
11Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

Ecclesiastes 12
13Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

Micah 6
8He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?

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12But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

It sounds sick to me to think a woman would want to sleep with God!!!! Those who love Christ want to keep His commandments not what people are suggesting.

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I agree. There is no reason for Christ to marry a woman while He was on earth as a human being. There are many reasons why He would not.

Christ is engaged to marry the church, the bride of Christ, at His second coming.
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I have never seen anything to indicate that Jesus was married....From the time He was 12 his main goal seemed to be "Doing my Father's business" as quoted from Jesus when his mother and Joseph found him in the temple teaching. I believe He knew His destiny and that His time would be short, so I don't think He had much time for earthly pleasure......We know he attended a wedding, and had friends like Lazarus, Martha, Mary and Mary Magdalene, the Disciples, and Mary his mother and other family members.....But when you walk from place to place these journeys take time and I just don't see much time for social activity.....If He had a wife surely there would have been mention of her at the crucifixion.
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