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Old 04-17-2008, 10:23 PM
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34 "Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'

37 "Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?' 40 "The King will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'
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Old 04-17-2008, 10:28 PM
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Good question... my Church teaches, however, that it's not just "following the Way" but that:

The disciple of Christ must not only keep the faith and live on it, but also profess it, confidently bear witness to it, and spread it: All however must be prepared to confess Christ before men and to follow him along the way of the Cross, amidst the persecutions which the Church never lacks. Service of and witness to the faith are necessary for salvation: "So every one who acknowledges me before men, I also will acknowledge before my Father who is in heaven; but whoever denies me before men, I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven."(Mt 10:32-33)
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Good question... my Church teaches, however, that it's not just "following the Way" but that:

The disciple of Christ must not only keep the faith and live on it, but also profess it, confidently bear witness to it, and spread it: All however must be prepared to confess Christ before men and to follow him along the way of the Cross, amidst the persecutions which the Church never lacks. Service of and witness to the faith are necessary for salvation: "So every one who acknowledges me before men, I also will acknowledge before my Father who is in heaven; but whoever denies me before men, I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven."(Mt 10:32-33)
Also, proclaiming the good news in Christ is a bit different from "having the right belief," isn't it?
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Old 04-17-2008, 10:38 PM
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It's about what you do, following the Way.

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34 "Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'

37 "Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?' 40 "The King will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'

This is an exception to the general rule of salvation. But the general rule stays.(faith, baptism, Good works)
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Also, proclaiming the good news in Christ is a bit different from "having the right belief," isn't it?
Not if I understand the question correctly.... the "good news" is just that: news. Something specific and tangible. It's not the "good idea" or "good maybe"... so when we proclaim the "good news" shouldn't it matter if we get it right?

I can't imagine God would enter the world through the Virgin, suffer and die for our salvation, but really only cared if we did more good works than bad. What was the point of his life if we don't need to get it "right"... what was wrong with the Jewish faith if all you need is to do good works?
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Not if I understand the question correctly.... the "good news" is just that: news. Something specific and tangible. It's not the "good idea" or "good maybe"... so when we proclaim the "good news" shouldn't it matter if we get it right?

I can't imagine God would enter the world through the Virgin, suffer and die for our salvation, but really only cared if we did more good works than bad. What was the point of his life if we don't need to get it "right"... what was wrong with the Jewish faith if all you need is to do good works?
I wouldn't say it's a matter of doing more good works than bad. It's a matter of understanding that Christ called us to same self-sacrifce he made, which is the impetus to follow the Way. And it is narrow.

And yet anyone who follows the Way (of Love), out of whatever belief or motivation, is participating in God's work in the world, wouldn't you say?

God entered the world to save us, and He did, through His life, death and resurrection. That is the basis for our Hope.
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3 "Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4 Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
5 Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
7 Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called children of God. 10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11 "Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
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4 Blessed are those who mourn,
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5 Blessed are the meek,