The parable of the tares: an insight (Jesus, ritual, moral)

[angellous_evangellous]

From Plutarch, "How to tell a flatterer from a friend" available at http://www.bostonleadershipbuilders....m_a_friend.htm

[4] Well, but after all, who is this flatterer then, whom we ought so industriously to avoid?

I answer: He who neither professes nor seems to flatter; who never haunts your kitchen, is never observed to watch the dial that he may nick your supper-time; who won’t drink to excess, but will keep his brains about him; who is prying and inquisitive, would mix in your business, and wind himself into your secrets: in short, he who acts the friend, not with the air of a comedian or a satirist, but with the port and gravity of a tragedian. For, as Plato says, It is the height of injustice to appear just and be really a knave <A href="http://www.bostonleadershipbuilders.com/plutarch/moralia/how_to_tell_a_flatterer_from_a_friend.htm#plato1_n ote">/1/.

So are we to look upon those flatterers as most dangerous who walk not barefaced but in disguise, who make no sport but mind their business; for these often personate the true and sincere friend so exactly, that it is enough to make him fall under the like suspicion of a cheat, unless we be extremely curious in remarking the difference betwixt them. It is storied of Gobryas (one of the Persian nobility, who joined with Darius against the Magi), that he pursued one of them into a dark room, and there fell upon him; during the scuffle Darius came in and drew upon the enemy, but durst not push at him, lest perhaps he might wound his confederate Gobryas with the thrust; whereupon Gobryas bade him, rather than fail, run both through together <A href="http://www.bostonleadershipbuilders.com/plutarch/moralia/how_to_tell_a_flatterer_from_a_friend.htm#herodotu s1_note">/2/. But since we can by no means admit of that vulgar saying, Let my friend perish, so my enemy perish with him, but had rather still endeavor at the discovery of a parasite from a friend, notwithstanding the nearness of the resemblance, we ought to use our utmost care, lest at any time we indifferently reject the good with the bad, or unadvisedly retain the bad with the good, the friend and flatterer together.

For as those wild grains which usually grow up with wheat, and are of the same figure and bigness with it, are not easily winnowed from it, — for they either cannot pass through the holes of the sieve, if narrow, or pass together with the wheat, if larger, — so is it infinitely difficult to distinguish flattery from friendship, because the one so exquisitely mixes with all the passions, humors, interests, and inclinations of the other. <A href="http://www.bostonleadershipbuilders.com/plutarch/moralia/how_to_tell_a_flatterer_from_a_friend.htm#tares_no te">/3/

Compare the parable:

Matthew 13:24-30 24 He put another parable before them, saying, "The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a man who sowed good seed in his field, 25 but while his men were sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat and went away. 26 So when the plants came up and bore grain, then the weeds appeared also. 27 And the servants of the master of the house came and said to him, 'Master, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have weeds?' 28 He said to them, 'An enemy has done this.' So the servants said to him, 'Then do you want us to go and gather them?' 29 But he said, 'No, lest in gathering the weeds you root up the wheat along with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest, and at harvest time I will tell the reapers, Gather the weeds first and bind them in bundles to be burned, but gather the wheat into my barn.'"

[angellous_evangellous]

Bump...

[Halcyon]

It's an interesting thought, but i don't think that was the intention of the parable. I think the parable is warning against the Church trying to root out heretics from their flock, in case they "uproot" true believers along with the heretics.
It's saying let the heretics believe what they want, let God judge them at the harvest.

[angellous_evangellous]

Originally Posted by Halcyon

It's an interesting thought, but i don't think that was the intention of the parable. I think the parable is warning against the Church trying to root out heretics from their flock, in case they "uproot" true believers along with the heretics.
It's saying let the heretics believe what they want, let God judge them at the harvest.

The orthodox are "real friends" of God... the heretics are imitators...

[angellous_evangellous]

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[Halcyon]

Originally Posted by angellous_evangellous

The orthodox are "real friends" of God... the heretics are imitators...

Well, no - you're the heretics obviously .

The thing about parables is, you can read pretty much anything into them that you want. Which is kinda the idea, only the spiritually mature will read the intended message, but others will get a message that may still seem meaningful to them.

I think if Jesus had meant his message to be as simple and straightforward, then that's how he would have spoken. His use of parables suggests mysticism to me.

[angellous_evangellous]

smack!