Are you ready? (Jesus, Earth, virtual, America, doctrine)

[Snowbear]

For those folks who believe in the 'rapture' doctrine (I'm not one of them), here's a video showing one way they think it will happen... Enjoy

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by Snowbear

For those folks who believe in the 'rapture' doctrine (I'm not one of them), here's a video showing one way they think it will happen... Enjoy

Unfortunately, the speakers on my computer are broken, so I'm not able to get much out of videos. I don't believe in "the rapture" either, Snowbear. At least it's not a part of the LDS religious vocabulary. We do believe in the Second Coming of Christ, though, and I know the two things are related. I'm actually kind of foggy as to exactly what the rapture is. Maybe you or someone else could fill me in. For some reason, I'm surprised that you don't believe in it. I kind of thought that this was something most non-Catholic, non-Eastern Orthodox Christians believed in.

[Booko]

Originally Posted by Katzpur

Unfortunately, the speakers on my computer are broken, so I'm not able to get much out of videos. I don't believe in "the rapture" either, Snowbear. At least it's not a part of the LDS religious vocabulary. We do believe in the Second Coming of Christ, though, and I know the two things are related. I'm actually kind of foggy as to exactly what the rapture is. Maybe you or someone else could fill me in. For some reason, I'm surprised that you don't believe in it. I kind of thought that this was something most non-Catholic, non-Eastern Orthodox Christians believed in.

The idea of the Rapture is not even accepted among most Protestants.

The idea dates back to the late 19th century, and was unknown in Christianity before then.

The term "rapture" was popularized by a British minister, John Darby, and was picked up by other millenialists during that time.

I'm not sure the idea of the Rapture even goes much beyond English-speaking Christendom. Maybe someone else here can comment on this aspect of it?

[michel]

I had never heard of it until I joined this forum.

[Snowbear]

Originally Posted by Katzpur

Unfortunately, the speakers on my computer are broken, so I'm not able to get much out of videos.

The audio was the preacher quoting from Matthew. He was talking about how we don't know when Jesus will be coming back for us. Could be next year, next month, next week or even right n...... then most of the people disappear.

I did kinda wonder why only the preacher's bible fell. Others in the audience were holding them, but they were gone after the disappearance

Originally Posted by Katzpur

I don't believe in "the rapture" either, Snowbear. At least it's not a part of the LDS religious vocabulary. We do believe in the Second Coming of Christ, though, and I know the two things are related. I'm actually kind of foggy as to exactly what the rapture is. Maybe you or someone else could fill me in.

Well - looks like Booko covered the history of the concept pretty well.

Originally Posted by Katzpur

For some reason, I'm surprised that you don't believe in it.

It's not a biblical doctrine

Originally Posted by Katzpur

I kind of thought that this was something most non-Catholic, non-Eastern Orthodox Christians believed in.

I don't think so. There are obviously *some* who do, but as Booka noted, it's not really as widely accepted as you think.

Someone made a comment about the 'Left Behind' series, which I didn't 'get' at the time. After looking it up, it seems that series actually popularized the concept for a lot of folks. But again, I don't believe it's a Biblical doctrine, so I don't buy into it, though I may actually have to read some of the series just to see what it's all about

Someone posted this video on another (horse oriented) board I'm on and I thought it might generate some interesting discussion on an actual religion board... and so far, it has

[Booko]

Originally Posted by Snowbear

I don't think so. There are obviously *some* who do, but as Booka noted, it's not really as widely accepted as you think.

I grew up in, and still have ties to, the Reformed denomination, and have never heard of it spoken there. Our local Methodists don't seem too big on it either.

Someone made a comment about the 'Left Behind' series, which I didn't 'get' at the time. After looking it up, it seems that series actually popularized the concept for a lot of folks. But again, I don't believe it's a Biblical doctrine, so I don't buy into it, though I may actually have to read some of the series just to see what it's all about

It actually goes back a bit farther than that, to a popular book in the 70s, by Hal Lindsey, called "The Late Great Planet Earth." Before that, I never heard anyone talk about it. Please note that Lindsey is involved in the Left Behind series as well.

Around here, it's pretty much some SoBaps, some Pentecostals, and some of the African-American churchs that believe in the idea of a Rapture.

[Ody]

Originally Posted by Booko

I'm not sure the idea of the Rapture even goes much beyond English-speaking Christendom. Maybe someone else here can comment on this aspect of it?

I'm sure preachers have brought it beyond the English speaking community.

[sojourner]

The earliest Christians believed in an imminent parousia. That's why Paul said, "Don't waste time getting married -- go out and spread the gospel." Christians have always hoped for the second coming. The whole "modern" belief of the rapture comes out of Revelation and has reached cultic proportions in some circles. It's based upon a literalistic reading of metaphorical material.

[Snowbear]

Thanks sojourner

So what exactly IS the doctrine of the rapture and where in the book of Revelation does it come from?

[Dentonz]

Originally Posted by Booko

The idea of the Rapture is not even accepted among most Protestants.

The idea dates back to the late 19th century, and was unknown in Christianity before then.

The term "rapture" was popularized by a British minister, John Darby, and was picked up by other millenialists during that time.

I'm not sure the idea of the Rapture even goes much beyond English-speaking Christendom. Maybe someone else here can comment on this aspect of it?

1 Thess 4:16,17
" For the Lord himself shall descend from Heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air..."

I belive Paul wrote this quite a bit earlier than the 19th century. It doesn't matter what you call it, it is still mentioned in the Bible. And just because it might not be called 'rapture' in other languages doesn't make it any less part of Biblical doctrine.