The Lord's Prayer (Jesus, Moses, creation, church, baptize)

[Scott1]

I have not read this section of the Catechism of the Catholic Church in a while... and was just blown away as I read it again this evening.

I posted it here in the hope that a few of my non-Catholic Christian brothers and sisters may take a moment to read this wonderful teaching about the Lord's Prayer, "the most perfect of prayers" (St. Thomas Acquinas)

CLICK HERE:
SECTION TWO
THE LORD'S PRAYER
"OUR FATHER!"





Some "highlights":

The expression God the Father had never been revealed to anyone. When Moses himself asked God who he was, he heard another name. The Father's name has been revealed to us in the Son, for the name "Son" implies the new name "Father."

We can invoke God as "Father" because he is revealed to us by his Son become man and because his Spirit makes him known to us. The personal relation of the Son to the Father is something that man cannot conceive of nor the angelic powers even dimly see: and yet, the Spirit of the Son grants a participation in that very relation to us who believe that Jesus is the Christ and that we are born of God.

The baptized cannot pray to "our" Father without bringing before him all those for whom he gave his beloved Son. God's love has no bounds, neither should our prayer. Praying "our" Father opens to us the dimensions of his love revealed in Christ: praying with and for all who do not yet know him, so that Christ may "gather into one the children of God." God's care for all men and for the whole of creation has inspired all the great practitioners of prayer; it should extend our prayer to the full breadth of love whenever we dare to say "our" Father.

Peace in Christ,
Scott

p.s. Feel free to skim over the "Catholic stuff" ... I pray everyone enjoys it.

[jeffrey]

I like that, Scott, very nicely stated. Had to read to read it twice, but hey, it's late!

[Scuba Pete]

Very good my friend. Very good!

[dawny0826]

Beautiful. Thanks so much for sharing.

[Dentonz]

Awesome! And who better to teach us to pray but Jesus himself.

[onmybelief]

As it is said in Matthew 6: 7-8 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like all the others, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.


This is the perfect prayer to embody all the things Christians should be: loving, forgiving and modest amongst other virtues.

[DTrent]

I thought this thread was going to take apart each part of the Lord's Prayer, verse by verse for a better understanding of it.
Guess not...

[Buttons*]

*Our Father - God
*Who art in heaven - lives in heaven
*Hallowed be thy name - You're name is sacred, let it remain so
*Thy kingdom come - we wait for the second comming
*Thy will be done - Try to follow the commandments and not sin, let us know your divine plan...
*On earth as it is in heaven - whatever is heavenly, lets all try to achieve it
*Give us this day our daily bread - The body of Christ, the Eucharist, and feel the Christ within us all
*And forgive us our trespasses - cause we sin, we need to be forgiven, have mercy
*As we forgive those who trespass against us - let us give grace to others as you've given to us, let us turn the other cheek, love thy neighbor and all that fun stuff
*And lead us not into temptation - try to protect us from getting into trouble, cause we know we're capable of it
*But deliver us from evil - save us from Satan, as you just did by having your son die for our sins...
*For thine is the kingdom - everything you created is, in fact, yours
*the power - omnipotent god of all
*and the glory - we owe you our personal glories and triumphs
*forever and ever - and always
*amen - seal the deal!

[Scott1]

Originally Posted by DTrent

I thought this thread was going to take apart each part of the Lord's Prayer, verse by verse for a better understanding of it.
Guess not...

Actually, that is what the section in the Catechism does... it's a bit too large a study for a thread, so feel free to read the section and make some comments or share something you learned if you like.

[DTrent]

Originally Posted by Buttons*

*Our Father - God
*Who art in heaven - lives in heaven

*Hallowed be thy name - You're name is sacred, let it remain so
- What IS that name?


*Thy kingdom come - we wait for the second comming
- What about 'the sign' given in Luke 21 and Matt.24?
Do you not feel that Christ is already present?

*Thy will be done - Try to follow the commandments and not sin, let us know your divine plan...

*On earth as it is in heaven - whatever is heavenly, lets all try to achieve it
- What IS his will for the earth?

*Give us this day our daily bread - The body of Christ, the Eucharist, and feel the Christ within us all
- What about thanking God in prayer for our literal food each time we eat a meal? I mean, since we are not cannibals we would not want to 'eat' the Christ, no?

*And forgive us our trespasses - cause we sin, we need to be forgiven, have mercy
*As we forgive those who trespass against us - let us give grace to others as you've given to us, let us turn the other cheek, love thy neighbor and all that fun stuff
*And lead us not into temptation - try to protect us from getting into trouble, cause we know we're capable of it
*But deliver us from evil - save us from Satan, as you just did by having your son die for our sins...

*For thine is the kingdom - everything you created is, in fact, yours
*the power - omnipotent god of all
*and the glory - we owe you our personal glories and triumphs
*forever and ever - and always
- Uh...I don't see this in the Bible. I believe it is a Catholic tradition of words?

*amen - seal the deal!

Are there any other faiths who view this prayer differently?