Jesus' Final Words (crucified, Epistles, translation, Revelation, bible)

[Rex]

Mark 15:37: Jesus was crying with a loud voice, and then died.


Mathew 27:50: Same as Mark.


Luke 23:46: Jesus says: "Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit," afterwards he dies.


John 19:30: Jesus says: "It is finished," afterwards he dies

[Runt]

Perhaps he cried in a loud voice, "Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit. It is finished", and then died. :P

[Pliskit]

Thats what I was thinking! lol

[Azhria Lilu]

Matthew, Mark, Luke and John... not very Jewish sounding names, are they?... sorry thinking aloud....

The bible was written a minimum of 100 years after the alleged death of Jesus.. - I say alleged because it isn't my belief, but I have no wish to offend.... but I digress -anyway, 100 years after the death of J.. so any dying words he may or may not have said will have been changed/forgotten/added to.

[Stained_Class]

Just for reference:

Matthew: 37 CE

Mark: 57 CE

Luke: 63 CE

John: 85 CE

Acts: 66 CE

Romans: 60 CE

I Corinthians: 59 CE

II Corinthians: 60 CE

Galacians: 60 CE

Ephesians: 64 CE

Philippians: (date unknown)

Colossians: (date unknown)

I Thessalonians: 54 CE

II Thessalonians: 54 CE

I Timothy: 65 CE

II Timothy: 66 CE

Titus: 65 CE

Epistles

Hebrews: 70 CE

James: 60-62 CE

I Peter: 60 CE

II Peter: 66 CE

I John: 90 CE

II John: 90 CE

III John: 90 CE

Jude: 66 CE

Revelation: 96 CE

Christ's death - around 30 CE

Words or phrases that were lost were mostly due to Greek to Hebrew to Latin translations (or any permutation thereof).

[Azhria Lilu]

Christ's death is ASSUMED to be around 30CE.. as there is no actual record of his existence or of the existence of a man called Jesus of that time who was crucified.

[Master Hoomer]

I heard there was no Bethlehem historically till well after Jesus' death...... :cry:

But I think Jesus is an archetype (original greek usage NOT Jungian)......so historical proof is bunk....

[Stained_Class]

Christ's death is ASSUMED to be around 30CE.. as there is no actual record of his existence or of the existence of a man called Jesus of that time who was crucified.

Could you please point me to this particular reference from the Misguided Anti-Christian Handbook. I can't seem to remember which page this was on.

Read Elizabeth Clare Prophet's The Lost Years of Jesus, she'll straighten you out.

[RavenRose]

It has been argued so many times - the four gospels really should be taken as evidence. To say there's no "real" evidence he existed is like arguing the first Buddha never existed - kind of pointless to.

There is hard evidence for the existance of Pontious Pilate though, hm?

[Azhria Lilu]

Could you please point me to this particular reference from the Misguided Anti-Christian Handbook. I can't seem to remember which page this was on.

Bear with me and I'll get the details.... while I'm at it I'll find you a reference on not jumping to conclusions because someone's opinion doesn't agree with your own - I am NOT anti-christian, I simply do not follow that faith. I think I might find you a book on manners too.