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View Poll Results: Would you care if Jesus was ugly?
Yes. That would be an insult. 0 0%
No. But I think he is. 2 10.00%
No. It does not matter at all... 18 90.00%
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Old 09-24-2008, 04:27 PM
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He then wandered the desert . . . fasting
Actually, he didn't do so much fasting. That was one of the things that his detractors criticized him for. He was frequently at feasts and parties and things. He also taught his followers not to fast while we was around, and was criticized for that, too.

He did a spectacular 40-day fast after he was baptized. But that's about it. Not a big faster.
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Sin is spiritual toxicity.

If Y'shua was without sin,
I believe it should follow in the flesh, that
passing gas, bowel movements and the like
would have had no "parallel".

"Eliminating" one's toxicity is definately not a "pretty" thing.
(however necessary it is)
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"Would you care if Jesus was ugly"?

Yes, because people used to tell me I look like Jesus.
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Worshipper wrote above:

He did a spectacular 40-day fast after he was baptized. But that's about it. Not a big faster.

He fasted forty days and nights... is what the scripture says if I recall:

See:

"After fasting for 40 days and 40 nights, he finally became hungry."

- Matthew 4:2

This was a parallel to Prophet Moses:

Exodus 34:28

So he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did not eat bread or drink water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.
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Old 10-01-2008, 01:15 AM
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Yeah, sorry for the confusion. For me, a day is very rarely anything but a 24-hour period, so I was including the day and the night. Also, when Mormons fast for a day, it tends to be for a 24-hour period (though there's a lot of difference of opinion on whether that's necessary or not). So when I think of fasting for a number of days, I think of those days as being uninterrupted 24-hour periods with no food or drink whatsoever.

I am aware of other religious traditions where fasting doesn't necessarily include nighttime abstinence. I should have considered that when I posted. Sorry for the confusion.
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Wow, all this talk of beauty. Has anyone ever stopped to think perhaps it is our perception that is flawed? Even if Jesus were to look like that picture maybe that is exactly what god held as extremely beautiful. We are humans...struck by physical desires and therefore find certain physical attributes more desirable than others. Doesn't mean that those particular attributes are what a god would find beautiful.
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oh so beauty is physical thing...no way...who cares for the shape of an eye if its sight was evil. besides, ugliness that i would see could only be reflection of my inner world from that flawless mirror, Jesus (PBUH) himself.


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Physical beauty IS a physical thing. That's what people are discussing here. A person's warmth and compassion, their personality itself, may be very beautiful, but it is a different kind of beauty. A beauty that has nothing to do with the color of one's eyes, hair, or skin tone.
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For those who accept that Psalm 22 is prophecy concerning the coming of Jesus, it is clear that the people of his day were not expected to find him attractive.

Psalm 22 NIV

1 My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
Why are you so far from saving me,
so far from the words of my groaning?
2 O my God, I cry out by day, but you do not answer,
by night, and am not silent.
3 Yet you are enthroned as the Holy One;
you are the praise of Israel. [a]
4 In you our fathers put their trust;
they trusted and you delivered them.
5 They cried to you and were saved;
in you they trusted and were not disappointed.
6 But I am a worm and not a man,
scorned by men and despised by the people.
7 All who see me mock me;
they hurl insults, shaking their heads:
8 "He trusts in the LORD;
let the LORD rescue him.
Let him deliver him,
since he delights in him."
9 Yet you brought me out of the womb;
you made me trust in you
even at my mother's breast.
10 From birth I was cast upon you;
from my mother's womb you have been my God.
11 Do not be far from me,
for trouble is near
and there is no one to help.
12 Many bulls surround me;
strong bulls of Bashan encircle me.
13 Roaring lions tearing their prey
open their mouths wide against me.
14 I am poured out like water,
and all my bones are out of joint.
My heart has turned to wax;
it has melted away within me.
15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd,
and my tongue sticks to the roof of my mouth;
you lay me [b] in the dust of death.
16 Dogs have surrounded me;
a band of evil men has encircled me,
they have pierced [c] my hands and my feet.
17 I can count all my bones;
people stare and gloat over me.
18 They divide my garments among them
and cast lots for my clothing.
19 But you, O LORD, be not far off;
O my Strength, come quickly to help me.
20 Deliver my life from the sword,
my precious life from the power of the dogs.
21 Rescue me from the mouth of the lions;
save [d] me from the horns of the wild oxen.
22 I will declare your name to my brothers;
in the congregation I will praise you.
23 You who fear the LORD, praise him!
All you descendants of Jacob, honor him!
Revere him, all you descendants of Israel!
24 For he has not despised or disdained
the suffering of the afflicted one;
he has not hidden his face from him
but has listened to his cry for help.
25 From you comes the theme of my praise in the great assembly;
before those who fear you [e] will I fulfill my vows.
26 The poor will eat and be satisfied;
they who seek the LORD will praise him—
may your hearts live forever!
27 All the ends of the earth
will remember and turn to the LORD,
and all the families of the nations
will bow down before him,
28 for dominion belongs to the LORD
and he rules over the nations.
29 All the rich of the earth will feast and worship;
all who go down to the dust will kneel before him—
those who cannot keep themselves alive.
30 Posterity will serve him;
future generations will be told about the Lord. 31 They will proclaim his righteousness
to a people yet unborn—
for he has done it.
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