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Old 07-18-2005, 08:24 AM
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What is the meaning of this verse, what does it exactly imply about God? Is this a pantheistic or panentheistic statement? Can any of you Christians elaborate on the meaning of this?

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Revelations 21:6 And He said to me, "It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End...

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What is the meaning of this verse, what does it exactly imply about God? Is this a pantheistic or panentheistic statement? Can any of you Christians elaborate on the meaning of this?

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Revelations 21:6 And He said to me, "It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End...

Alpha and Omega are the first and last letters of the Greek Alphabet so I am the Alpha and the Omega means I am the First and the Last. It is not a pantheistic statement because the definition of pantheism is "God is everything and everything is God" or "‘Pantheism’ ... signifies the belief that every existing entity is, only one Being; and that all other forms of reality are either modes (or appearances) of it or identical with it." Revelations 21:6 neither states nor implies a pantheistic point of view.
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Since the Bible flat out states that God has a beginning and an ending { Revelations 21:6**
I wonder what those beginnings are?
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Since the Bible flat out states that God has a beginning and an ending { Revelations 21:6**
I wonder what those beginnings are?
He said to me: "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End.
Revelations 21:6

"Do not be afraid; I am the first and the last, and the living One; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of death and of Hades."
Revelations 1:17-18

Perhaps "beginning" merely means "first" as it does in Rev. 1:17.
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Still makes me wonder about Gods beginnings. About his past and such
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He said to me: "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End.
Revelations 21:6

"Do not be afraid; I am the first and the last, and the living One; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of death and of Hades."
Revelations 1:17-18

Perhaps "beginning" merely means "first" as it does in Rev. 1:17.
it is my belief as one of JW that rev 21;6 is Jehovah God talking . but rev 1;17-18 is Jesus christ as the first and the last.Jesus was indeed the (first) human to be resurrected to imortal spirit life (colossians 1;18)also he is the( last )to be resurrected by Jehovah personally.so he becomes the living one.... living forever and ever.Jesus now has immortality. so he is like his immortal , father who is called the living God.(rev 7;2) (psalm 42;2)for the rest of humans Jesus himself is the resurrection and the life.(john 11;25)that is why Jesus has the keys of death and of hadesit is Jesus who will unlock the gates for those in death compare matthew 16;18
(John 11:25) Jesus said to her: "I am the resurrection and the life. He that exercises faith in me, even though he dies, will come to life

(John 6:40) For this is the will of my Father, that everyone that beholds the Son and exercises faith in him should have everlasting life, and I will resurrect him at the last day

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http://atschool.eduweb.co.uk/carolrb...n_symbols.html

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Alpha and omega - the beginning and the end of the Greek alphabet - demonstrates that God is first, and last - eternal!
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