Question about Roman Catholics (Jesus Christ, priests, tradition, grace, mission)

[PHOTOTAKER]

i like the form in ask a mormon a question and i have some questions and i thank this form would be really cool for other to ask you guys and gals questions and aswers...

so after reading the artical that Salt Lake is getting a new Bishop or arch bishop i was wandering how the Catholic church picks its new bishops? is it qualitcations? is there Job experiance?

and also i did some work with stain glass photographing it in a old catholic church called "holy trinity church" and found that the Jesus was not bapised by full emertion but though the modern day sprikly on the head, why was it changed? and how long has if been like this?

[Djamila]

What was the setting Jesus was in, overall? I've seen paintings and things where he's standing in a river with water being sprinkled on his head. Could've been before or after any full immersion?

[athanasius]

Originally Posted by PHOTOTAKER

i like the form in ask a mormon a question and i have some questions and i thank this form would be really cool for other to ask you guys and gals questions and aswers...

so after reading the artical that Salt Lake is getting a new Bishop or arch bishop i was wandering how the Catholic church picks its new bishops? is it qualitcations? is there Job experiance?

and also i did some work with stain glass photographing it in a old catholic church called "holy trinity church" and found that the Jesus was not bapised by full emertion but though the modern day sprikly on the head, why was it changed? and how long has if been like this?

I am not quite sure But I believe they have to be mature, devout, and chosen by the vatican before they are ordained a bishop.

I could be wrong though. So here is a bunch of info on them in general and thier office inthe church.

I hope these links help. They talk about the bishopric.

http://www.catholic-pages.com/hierarchy/bishops.asp

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02581b.htm

http://www.catholic.com/library/Bish...and_Deacon.asp


Here is something from our Catechism online found at

http://198.62.75.12/www1/CDHN/orders.html#ORDERS

On Jimmy Akin’s Nazareth resource library
http://www.cin.org/users/james/refer...nts.htm#Orders


from the Cathechsim of the Catholic Church as shown online address above:

III THE THREE DEGREES OF THE SACRAMENT OF HOLY ORDERS
1554 "The divinely instituted ecclesiastical ministry is exercised in different degrees by those who even from ancient times have been called bishops, priests, and deacons."[32] Catholic doctrine, expressed in the liturgy, the Magisterium, and the constant practice of the Church, recognizes that there are two degrees of ministerial participation in the priesthood of Christ: the episcopacy and the presbyterate . The diaconate is intended to help and serve them. For this reason the term sacerdos in current usage denotes bishops and priests but not deacons.

Yet Catholic doctrine teaches that the degrees of priestly participation (episcopate and presbyterate) and the degree of service (diaconate) are all three conferred by a sacramental act called "ordination," that is, by the sacrament of Holy Orders:
?Let everyone revere the deacons as Jesus Christ, the bishop as the image of the Father, and the presbyters as the senate of God and the assembly of the apostles. For without them one cannot speak of the Church.[33]

Episcopal ordination- fullness of the sacrament of Holy Orders
1555 "Amongst those various offices which have been exercised in the Church from the earliest times the chief place, according to the witness of tradition, is held by the function of those who, through their appointment to the dignity and responsibility of bishop, and in virtue consequently of the unbroken succession going back to the beginning, are regarded as transmitters of the apostolic line."[34]

1556 To fulfil their exalted mission, "the apostles were endowed by Christ with a special outpouring of the Holy Spirit coming upon them, and by the imposition of hands they passed on to their auxiliaries the gift of the Spirit, which is transmitted down to our day through episcopal consecration."[35]
1557 The Second Vatican Council "teaches . . . that the fullness of the sacrament of Holy Orders is conferred by episcopal consecration, that fullness namely which, both in the liturgical tradition of the Church and the language of the Fathers of the Church, is called the high priesthood, the acme (summa) of the sacred ministry."[36]

1558 "Episcopal consecration confers, together with the office of sanctifying, also the offices of teaching and ruling.... In fact ... by the imposition of hands and through the words of the consecration, the grace of the Holy Spirit is given, and a sacred character is impressed in such wise that bishops, in an eminent and visible manner, take the place of Christ himself, teacher, shepherd, and priest, and act as his representative (in Eius persona agant)."[37] "By virtue, therefore, of the Holy Spirit who has been given to them, bishops have been constituted true and authentic teachers of the faith and have been made pontiffs and pastors."[38]
1559 "One is constituted a member of the episcopal body in virtue of the sacramental consecration and by the hierarchical communion with the head and members of the college."[39] The character and collegial nature of the episcopal order are evidenced among other ways by the Church's ancient practice which calls for several bishops to participate in the consecration of a new bishop.[40] In our day, the lawful ordination of a bishop requires a special intervention of the Bishop of Rome, because he is the supreme visible bond of the communion of the particular Churches in the one Church and the guarantor of their freedom.

1560 As Christ's vicar, each bishop has the pastoral care of the particular Church entrusted to him, but at the same time he bears collegially with all his brothers in the episcopacy the solicitude for all the Churches: "Though each bishop is the lawful pastor only of the portion of the flock entrusted to his care, as a legitimate successor of the apostles he is, by divine institution and precept, responsible with the other bishops for the apostolic mission of the Church."[41]

1561 The above considerations explain why the Eucharist celebrated by the bishop has a quite special significance as an expression of the Church gathered around the altar, with the one who represents Christ, the Good Shepherd and Head of his Church, presiding.[42]

[Victor]

I'll get even more fancy and pull out Canon Law.....

CHAPTER II : THOSE TO BE ORDAINED
Can. 1024 Only a baptised man can validly receive sacred ordination.

Can. 1025 §1 In order lawfully to confer the orders of priesthood or diaconate, it must have been established, in accordance with the proofs laid down by law, that in the judgement of the proper Bishop or competent major Superior, the candidate possesses the requisite qualities, that he is free of any irregularity or impediment, and that he has fulfilled the requirements set out in can. 1033 - 1039. Moreover, the documents mentioned in can. 1050 must be to hand, and the investigation mentioned in can. 1051 must have been carried out.

§2 It is further required that, in the judgement of the same lawful Superior, the candidate is considered beneficial to the ministry of the Church.

§3 A Bishop ordaining his own subject who is destined for the service of another diocese, must be certain that the ordinand will in fact be attached to that other diocese.

[Victor]

Here is a good link on sprinkling vs. immersion you can read.

http://www.catholic.com/library/bapt...rsion_only.asp

[PHOTOTAKER]

Originally Posted by Victor

Here is a good link on sprinkling vs. immersion you can read.

http://www.catholic.com/library/bapt...rsion_only.asp

thank you it was very interesting...

[PHOTOTAKER]

i know you have alot of offical texts, but if you can hummer me. in your own words how dose a priest become a bishop/ arch bishop?

right now i under stand that the vatican recives infomation looks over it goes though some process and then a offical diction is made... the qulifcation is a good person, dosn't lie, is in good standing with the area that he is in (meaning no complaints of value), people really, i guess, like him or respond to him...

the info you gays gave me is great but theres allot of interpitation of what they are saying and trying to say... and i really don't want to get the wrong idea...

[Victor]

Originally Posted by PHOTOTAKER

i know you have alot of offical texts, but if you can hummer me. in your own words how dose a priest become a bishop/ arch bishop?

right now i under stand that the vatican recives infomation looks over it goes though some process and then a offical diction is made... the qulifcation is a good person, dosn't lie, is in good standing with the area that he is in (meaning no complaints of value), people really, i guess, like him or respond to him...

the info you gays gave me is great but theres allot of interpitation of what they are saying and trying to say... and i really don't want to get the wrong idea...

In short, he must be baptized/confirmed and be an ordained priest. The character of the individual priest is looked at by superiors (other Bishops) to see if he is fitting for the Bishopric. That help?

[PHOTOTAKER]

Originally Posted by Djamila

What was the setting Jesus was in, overall? I've seen paintings and things where he's standing in a river with water being sprinkled on his head. Could've been before or after any full immersion?

there a little artist interptiation, but John is holding an oil lamp (look like the an oil lamp) of water (sience its his baptism), John himself is on some rocks, jesus in the water. theres a symble of "the dove" over head, theres also some symbols of the trinity... Jesus had on ryal robes of some X design in it (i'm trying to see if it is a symble i have a book all about symbles there one part i havent found yet) ohya john had on his hear cothing and agin ryal robes...