sexual ethics and death (moral, mystic, Buddhism, abortion, sex)

[+Xausted]

bizare mix i know.
i am writing a section on the first precept (refraining from killing all sentient life) and the implications of ethical concepts.(not to be forgotten that this is also seen in the positive light of "substaining all life" as well)
the part i am on at the moment is sexual ethics.
so far i have got that to use controception will maybe stop any unwanted pregnancies which inturn will stop abortion.
and secondly the obvious one that using controception would stop any deadly dieases beING passed on.
can anyone think how else this can be related?...RUNNING OUT OF EXAMPLES

[Phasmid]

Originally Posted by +Xausted

bizare mix i know.
i am writing a section on the first precept (refraining from killing all sentient life) and the implications of ethical concepts.(not to be forgotten that this is also seen in the positive light of "substaining all life" as well)
the part i am on at the moment is sexual ethics.
so far i have got that to use controception will maybe stop any unwanted pregnancies which inturn will stop abortion.
and secondly the obvious one that using controception would stop any deadly dieases beING passed on.
can anyone think how else this can be related?...RUNNING OUT OF EXAMPLES

I'm not 100% sure what you're asking. Are you asking for examples of how contraception promotes life? If so I have a bit of a far fetched idea.

Contraception, or good sexual ethics, relieves pent up sexual frustration. Reducing stress and promoting good health. In extreme cases it may (I guess) prevent instances of rape caused by surpressed sexual desire. Though that's just sex in general... I can't really relate it to sexual ethics.

I hope this post might at least spark some ideas.

Edit: Sorry I didn't notice this thread was in the Buddhism forum *leaves quietly*

[lilithu]

Originally Posted by Phasmid

In extreme cases it may (I guess) prevent instances of rape caused by surpressed sexual desire.

Rape is not about releasing suppressed desire; it's about dominating the victim. It is an act of violence.

Originally Posted by +Xausted

bizare mix i know.
i am writing a section on the first precept (refraining from killing all sentient life) and the implications of ethical concepts.(not to be forgotten that this is also seen in the positive light of "substaining all life" as well)
the part i am on at the moment is sexual ethics.
so far i have got that to use controception will maybe stop any unwanted pregnancies which inturn will stop abortion.
and secondly the obvious one that using controception would stop any deadly dieases beING passed on.
can anyone think how else this can be related?...RUNNING OUT OF EXAMPLES

I don't understand how contraception relates to the first precept. Are you looking for examples of how it sustains life? Can't think of any other than the ones you already listed. Sorry.

[+Xausted]

Originally Posted by lilithu

Rape is not about releasing suppressed desire; it's about dominating the victim. It is an act of violence.


I don't understand how contraception relates to the first precept. Are you looking for examples of how it sustains life? Can't think of any other than the ones you already listed. Sorry.

to refrain from taking life/to substain lfe.
therefore to prevent unwanted pregnancies is stopping a possibility of some one maybe having an abortion. therefore this would result in the woman "taking" life. it is to do with acting responsible.

[mball1297]

Originally Posted by lilithu

Rape is not about releasing suppressed desire; it's about dominating the victim. It is an act of violence.

I've heard this many places, and I think it is very true...most of the time. I don't think this is the only reasoning for rape. I think in many cases rape is the result of sexual desire and/or frustration. It's always about dominating the victim, though, as it wouldn't be rape if one didn't domiate the victim.

[whereismynotecard]

Well... If everyone has less secks, or just fewer babies, then the world won't over-populate past it's carrying capacity... Who knows what will happen when the world reaches it's maximum carrying capacity...... I don't know if this answers your question at all, but when the maximum carrying capacity is reached, the population will probably drop dramaticly, because there will not be enough resources... So if we just stop reproducing, we won't have to worry about that.

[MysticSang'ha]

Originally Posted by +Xausted

bizare mix i know.
i am writing a section on the first precept (refraining from killing all sentient life) and the implications of ethical concepts.(not to be forgotten that this is also seen in the positive light of "substaining all life" as well)
the part i am on at the moment is sexual ethics.
so far i have got that to use controception will maybe stop any unwanted pregnancies which inturn will stop abortion.
and secondly the obvious one that using controception would stop any deadly dieases beING passed on.
can anyone think how else this can be related?...RUNNING OUT OF EXAMPLES

Are we looking at correlation or causation? Or both?

The motivation to practice mindfulness for the sake of all sentient beings usually takes care of most every issue that I can think of - and that includes the morality of sexual ethics as they pertain to the Precept of not taking the life of another. You pretty much nailed the biggies - unwanted pregnancies and STD's.




Peace,
Mystic

[+Xausted]

[quote=MysticSang'ha;1124918]Are we looking at correlation or causation? Or both?

The motivation to practice mindfulness for the sake of all sentient beings usually takes care of most every issue that I can think of - and that includes the morality of sexual ethics as they pertain to the Precept of not taking the life of another. You pretty much nailed the biggies - unwanted pregnancies and STD's.

both.
the title is ..."comment on the implications of the first precept".
this has to be done with regards the 5 main ethical concerns.
i agree that they are the two main ones, i just feel that i am missing something deeper than i can see at the moment.
i have related it to the Noble Eight Fold Path with reference to mindfulness, action and intention.
do you think i am missing anything else?