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Old 05-08-2004, 06:28 AM
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Anders: Too much obliged. Yet, I didn't want to write the name leaving the sound out. In fact all the opposite. In Hebrew for reasons I explained in this forum they have always write a transliteration of YAHWAH, YAHVEH, JAHVEH and similar things. I want to write something in Chinese or Japanese which is similar to the SOUND in English of saying "J-VEH" or the SPELLING I (like in sit, lick, flick) followed by E (like in met, wet, set) plus VEH (without the gutural sound of the H). Is there at least a sound similar to what I'm saying? Can anyone write it to me? To me the SOUND is more important than the writing. If I try to imitate the original Italian sound of the name we write in English as "Christopher Columbus" I would have to write something not existing: I would write "ChristO'photo Colombo" since PH has the English sound of F and the T is like a soft R in "photo" or "gotta". The emphasis of the sound in the vowel O in ChristO since English doesn't have a visible written accent. So, really I need someone to help me to write what is "imposible". I know, it's imposible to write "ChristO'photo Colombo" but now you know the equivalent of the Italian original name (different from Spanish, Cristóbal Colón and Portuguese Cristóvão Colombo, etc). There must be a sound similar represented by ancient 50.000 Chinese ideograms or the 2000 we need to read the newspaper!
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Old 05-08-2004, 06:38 AM
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When Americans went to Japan for the first time, they couldn't pronounce "doô itashimashitê" (meaning "you're welcome" after "thanks"=domo arigato), so they invented an homophonous sound which was a false cognate. They said "don't touch my moustache". In Spanish, if you want to ask the waiter if "is there butter?" ("hay mantequilla?"), the sound in English is equivalent to say "I mean to kill ya?". If I say in Russian "good" the sound is very similar to say "horror show" in English. In Japanese if I say "ohayo" (good morning) is the equivalent sound as naming Ohio and the name O'Hara would mean "honoured stomach". That's what I need. I need to write the equivalent SOUND of what in English is spelling I (like in sit, click), E (like in met, wet) plus VEH (without the sound of H) which is a sound pretty much like saying J-VEH...but in Chinese or Japanese, Mandarine, Corean, etc. I know in Portuguese, Spanish, Italian, French the written of that sound would be IEVE or IÊVE.
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When Americans went to Japan for the first time, they couldn't pronounce "doô itashimashitê" (meaning "you're welcome" after "thanks"=domo arigato), so they invented an homophonous sound which was a false cognate. They said "don't touch my moustache". In Spanish, if you want to ask the waiter if "is there butter?" ("hay mantequilla?"), the sound in English is equivalent to say "I mean to kill ya?". If I say in Russian "good" the sound is very similar to say "horror show" in English. In Japanese if I say "ohayo" (good morning) is the equivalent sound as naming Ohio and the name O'Hara would mean "honoured stomach". That's what I need. I need to write the equivalent SOUND of what in English is spelling I (like in sit, click), E (like in met, wet) plus VEH (without the sound of H) which is a sound pretty much like saying J-VEH...but in Chinese or Japanese, Mandarine, Corean, etc. I know in Portuguese, Spanish, Italian, French the written of that sound would be IEVE or IÊVE.
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Old 05-08-2004, 06:40 AM
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The equivalent of Spanish "hay mantequilla?" (is there butter) is not as I wrote "I mean to kill ya?" but almost like "I meant to kill ya?".
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The equivalent of Spanish "hay mantequilla?" (is there butter) is not as I wrote "I mean to kill ya?" but almost like "I meant to kill ya?".
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Old 05-08-2004, 07:33 AM
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I sent you a private message with a description of a transliteration of the nonsense name "Jehovah", so let's get back to reincarnation here.
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I sent you a private message with a description of a transliteration of the nonsense name "Jehovah", so let's get back to reincarnation here.
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I have read in reincarnation that before we are 'born' we choose our parents and our environment (as in what religion or culture of our parents) as it will prove to be a learning scenerio for us to continue our growth. Does any one know how far that goes, like did I agree to meet the people that I have met or relationships I have had? Sometimes I find myself wondering about people I come in contact with and wonder if I chose it, then I wonder if it even works that way?? So this is my question, am I thinking of this all wrong, or do we infact make promises with other souls to come back into contact and further learn from each other??
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I have read in reincarnation that before we are 'born' we choose our parents and our environment (as in what religion or culture of our parents) as it will prove to be a learning scenerio for us to continue our growth. Does any one know how far that goes, like did I agree to meet the people that I have met or relationships I have had? Sometimes I find myself wondering about people I come in contact with and wonder if I chose it, then I wonder if it even works that way?? So this is my question, am I thinking of this all wrong, or do we infact make promises with other souls to come back into contact and further learn from each other??
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I cannot speak with certainty about this; I can tell you what the teaching is.....

At least for those who are practicing Bodhisattvas, the Lotus Sutra states that yes, we did *in general* choose our circumstances. We did this in order to assist other beings to find the Way and teach them how to end their suffering. Because there are so many billions of beings here on earth with millions of different circumstances, examples or role models are needed in every conceivable type of circumstances in order to assist others in similar circumstances. I would have to look to find you specific chapter refernces and passages; I am not as well studied as I should be.

We are also taught that the people we are close to have been and will be connected to us in various ways throughout eternity. Those who we meet and interact with are in our lives for a variety of reasons; some of those are karmic effects, and some of these are new opportunities.

Please note that this is a very simplistic explanation and is not in any way complete or comprehensive; I am just trying to thumbnail the ideas.
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