Comparison of scripture (translation, bible, God)

Bishka · #1 09-05-2006, 12:53 AM

From the KJV Bible

Proverbs 11:28

28. He that trusteth in his riches shall fall: but the righteous shall flourish as a branch.

Taken from the MSG (whatever that is)

Proverbs 11:28
28. A life devoted to things is a dead life, a stump; a God-shaped life is a flourishing tree.

Okay, I have a bit of an issue with this.

One - God isn't even mentioned in the KJV version

Two - The KJV version mentions a branch - that's it. Yet this MSG version ads stmp, tree. (I know it's similar, but why?

Three - KJV version says the person will 'fall', not have a 'dead life' as the MSG does.

Any other discussion on this? Are all bible versions this different?

PetShopBoy88 · #2 09-05-2006, 09:35 AM

I don't like the message translation. IT's not a translation. IT's an interpretation. Granted, ANY translation is going to be an interpretation, but this one is balanced much more heavily towards interpretation than translation.

Bishka · #3 09-05-2006, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by PetShopBoy88

I don't like the message translation. IT's not a translation. IT's an interpretation. Granted, ANY translation is going to be an interpretation, but this one is balanced much more heavily towards interpretation than translation.

Thanks for the reply. I defintley agree though, it's more on that person particular interpretation.

michel · #4 09-05-2006, 09:51 AM

From:- http://www.bible.org/Netbible/pro11.htm

11:28 The one who trusts in his riches will fall, (which is how I understand it); but (slightly off topic) this is just one of the reasons I don't believe that the Bible 'is for me'.

jewscout · #5 09-05-2006, 09:53 AM

here's another one for ya...
JPS 1917
He that trusteth in his riches shall fall; but the righteous shall flourish as foliage.

just to add to the fun!

PetShopBoy88 · #6 09-05-2006, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by beckysoup61

Thanks for the reply. I defintley agree though, it's more on that person particular interpretation.

Yes, which denies the other person the right to interpret it. Now, if somebody reads that, their interpretation will be the interepretation of an interpretation of an interpretation. The fewer "interpretations" between me and the original, the better.

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Originally Posted by michel

11:28 The one who trusts in his riches will fall, (which is how I understand it); but (slightly off topic) this is just one of the reasons I don't believe that the Bible 'is for me'.

Because you find yourself trusting in riches?

Bishka · #7 09-05-2006, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by PetShopBoy88

Yes, which denies the other person the right to interpret it. Now, if somebody reads that, their interpretation will be the interepretation of an interpretation of an interpretation. The fewer "interpretations" between me and the original, the better.

That's a good idea.

dawny0826 · #8 09-05-2006, 12:43 PM

Maybe I'm daft...but I've read all of the verses posted to mean the very same thing.

I don't really see how meaning was lost in the translations.

God is righteousness.

I read from several different Bibles...King James, New King James, NLT, NCV, NIV and an NAB.

Differences in verbiage like the example posted doesn't change the meaning of the text for me. I find differences when reading the Bible between the different texts from time to time but I've never run across a verse where the meaning is totally different. Some version just read a little better than others.

I'll leave now.

jewscout · #9 09-05-2006, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dawny0826

Maybe I'm daft...but I've read all of the verses posted to mean the very same thing.

I don't really see how meaning was lost in the translations.

God is righteousness.

i agree....i think the meaning of the text is very plain and simple in this case...place trust in HaShem not on your bank account...