Which day? (beliefs, scriptures, Yahweh)

[may]

Originally Posted by wmam

So your saying that they waited until after sunset until they started preparing the lamb? That would entail killing it and fileting it to cooking it all to also be eaten at night?

Nisan 13, people are busy making final arrangements for the Passover. Early in the afternoon, Jesus sends Peter and John to prepare the Passover for them in an upper room in Jerusalem. (Mark 14:12-16; Luke 22:8) A little before sundown, Jesus and the other ten apostles meet them there for their last Passover celebration.

[joeboonda]

Well, from what I gather from the scriptures, and I use KJV, Jesus died on Friday, he was nailed to the cross about 9a.m. (the 3rd hr.),and died 6 hours later at 3p.m. (the ninth hr.),and rose again on Sunday morning. There was darkness over the land form noon til 3 according to Matt 27:45. According to Matt 28:1 Jesus rose on the first day of the week, Sunday, Saturday being the last day of the week or the sabbath.

[wmam]

Originally Posted by may

Nisan 13, people are busy making final arrangements for the Passover. Early in the afternoon, Jesus sends Peter and John to prepare the Passover for them in an upper room in Jerusalem. (Mark 14:12-16; Luke 22:8) A little before sundown, Jesus and the other ten apostles meet them there for their last Passover celebration.

Now I am really confused.

I can't find anywhere in the KJV where anyone prepared anything on the 13th of Abib. Now I will give you as such as far as searching out leaven and getting rid of it before the 14th but as far as preparing the lamb it was told to wait until the 14th at evening. Some translations say between the evenings, hence my stating the possibility of death occuring at 3 on the 14th. But this would make the Last Supper just that, a supper.

[wmam]

Originally Posted by joeboonda

Well, from what I gather from the scriptures, and I use KJV, Jesus died on Friday, he was nailed to the cross about 9a.m. (the 3rd hr.),and died 6 hours later at 3p.m. (the ninth hr.),and rose again on Sunday morning. There was darkness over the land form noon til 3 according to Matt 27:45. According to Matt 28:1 Jesus rose on the first day of the week, Sunday, Saturday being the last day of the week or the sabbath.

So you also don't believe in a full 72 hour period but rather just a period within a three day series?

[joeboonda]

Originally Posted by wmam

So you also don't believe in a full 72 hour period but rather just a period within a three day series?

Yeah, I believe in what the Holy Bible says happened in the four gospels. He died on friday and rose Sunday morning, thus the early church, that was made up of Jewish christians in Jerusalem began meeting together and bringing their offerings on the first day of the week which is Sunday. I dont try to fit the events of Jesus' death, burial, and ressurection into a formulated set of rituals that had to be done in some exact certain way or it didn't work. He kinda came to do away with all of that, he being the one sacrifice once, for all of us. The main thing is to trust in what he did on that cross as payment for our sins and turn from our way of obtaining eternal life, to God's way that he said, in Isaiah 53 that he was satisfied with the payment. Jesus paid for our sins and offers salvation as a free gift to all who will believe in or trust in him, that he is the lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world.

[wmam]

Originally Posted by joeboonda

Yeah, I believe in what the Holy Bible says happened in the four gospels. He died on friday and rose Sunday morning, thus the early church, that was made up of Jewish christians in Jerusalem began meeting together and bringing their offerings on the first day of the week which is Sunday. I dont try to fit the events of Jesus' death, burial, and ressurection into a formulated set of rituals that had to be done in some exact certain way or it didn't work. He kinda came to do away with all of that, he being the one sacrifice once, for all of us. The main thing is to trust in what he did on that cross as payment for our sins and turn from our way of obtaining eternal life, to God's way that he said, in Isaiah 53 that he was satisfied with the payment. Jesus paid for our sins and offers salvation as a free gift to all who will believe in or trust in him, that he is the lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world.

Oh so there's no such thing as sin anymore?

[joeboonda]

Originally Posted by wmam

Oh so there's no such thing as sin anymore?

Er, did I say that? Did not mean to imply that there is no sin anymore, what I am saying is that there IS sin and that is why Jesus died, to take away, that is to forgive our sins, to pay for them, to remove them as far as the east from the west, and to cover us in his righteousness so that we may be able to live in God's Holy presence in the hereafter.

[wmam]

Originally Posted by joeboonda

Er, did I say that? Did not mean to imply that there is no sin anymore, what I am saying is that there IS sin and that is why Jesus died, to take away, that is to forgive our sins, to pay for them, to remove them as far as the east from the west, and to cover us in his righteousness so that we may be able to live in God's Holy presence in the hereafter.

If He takes away the sin then how is there still sin?

[may]

Originally Posted by wmam

Now I am really confused.

I can't find anywhere in the KJV where anyone prepared anything on the 13th of Abib. Now I will give you as such as far as searching out leaven and getting rid of it before the 14th but as far as preparing the lamb it was told to wait until the 14th at evening. Some translations say between the evenings, hence my stating the possibility of death occuring at 3 on the 14th. But this would make the Last Supper just that, a supper.

LUKE 22; 7-8..............Then came the day of unleavened bread, when the passover must be killed.
8And he sent Peter and John, saying, Go and prepare us the passover, that we may eat. KJV
Now on the first day of unfermented cakes, when they customarily sacrificed the passover [victim], his disciples said to him: "Where do you want us to go and prepare for you to eat the passover?" 13 With that he sent forth two of his disciples and said to them: "Go into the city, and a man carrying an earthenware vessel of water will encounter YOU. Follow him, 14 and wherever he goes inside say to the householder, ‘The Teacher says: "Where is the guest room for me where I may eat the passover with my disciples?"’ 15 And he will show YOU a large upper room, furnished in preparation; and there prepare for us." 16 So the disciples went out, and they entered the city and found it just as he said to them; and they prepared for the passover... Mark 14;12-16

(Matthew 26:19) And the disciples did as Jesus ordered them, and they got things ready for the passover.

(Luke 22:13) So they departed and found it just as he had said to them, and they got the passover ready.

[paultildsley]

if jesus took away our sins, do you believe it is wrong for us, by us i mean the state or goverment we are controlled by, to force are religious man to face a jury of his peers for a crime he has committed, then to be sentenced for his crimes?