Which day? (beliefs, scriptures, Yahweh)

[Aqualung]

Originally Posted by wmam

I just looked up a link that shows the 613 Laws. Now if you take out those laws to do with sacrifice and offerings as well as those laws pertaining to the priesthood because there is only one Priest now and all law pertaing to the Temple because it is destroyed. ummmmmmmmm ........ have I left anything out? ........... other than those laws which through scripture it is plainly shown that YAHshua, or His sacrifice, either did away with them or changed them. Or maybe they are sort of put on hold until lets say the Temple is rebuilt and the Priesthood is re-established, i.e. the Levitical Priesthood as in the Kohanim, as well as Tithes cause there are no Levites to recieve them. As stated if you take those Laws out and look at the rest. What Law is so distastefull unless you are just not wanting to obey thy Father?

http://www.jewfaq.org/613.htm

Well, you can't take out the priest because there actually are a lot of priests, and of course Jesus has commanded us in these latter days to build up temples . . .

You know, though, we sort of beleive in something similar. That in the very end, there will be a last blood sacrifice of animals.

[wmam]

Originally Posted by Aqualung

no it doesn't. Because it is no longer a commandement that I follow the mosaic law. OR else Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob would not be saints, and I think they were better than the average follower of Mosaic Law.

So you believe that they are the only Saints?

I believe that they also had the Law with them as well. It might not have been written in stone but in their minds and hearts.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I stand firm in my belief as I see you do as well.

Shalom

[wmam]

Originally Posted by Aqualung

Well, you can't take out the priest because there actually are a lot of priests, and of course Jesus has commanded us in these latter days to build up temples . . .

You know, though, we sort of beleive in something similar. That in the very end, there will be a last blood sacrifice of animals.

Help me locate where it states that YAHshua commanded that we build up Temples.

I can and do take out the Priest because I believe that they became null and void after YAHshua was made the High Priest under the order of Malchisidec. He is the only Priest. Through His mediation and no other. Or at least this is my belief. Others are entitled to their own. I'm not sure I follow you on this last blood sacrifice........... YAHshua was the last of the so called blood sacrifices. There not need be anymore.

[Aqualung]

Originally Posted by wmam

So you believe that they are the only Saints?

No. But I beleive they are saints. Yet if a saint were defined as those who follow the mosaic law, they wouldn't be saints.

Originally Posted by wmam

I believe that they also had the Law with them as well. It might not have been written in stone but in their minds and hearts.

Ah, I beleive the opposite. I beleive they had the gospel of Jesus Christ written in their hearts. I beleive that the Jews heardened their hearts to this gospel, so they had to get the lower law. Now we have Christ's gospel again, so we don't need that lower law.

Originally Posted by wmam

I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I stand firm in my belief as I see you do as well.

Shalom

Yes, and it was a really good debate.

Originally Posted by wmam

Help me locate where it states that YAHshua commanded that we build up Temples.

That's in the doctrine and Covenants.

Originally Posted by wmam

I can and do take out the Priest because I believe that they became null and void after YAHshua was made the High Priest under the order of Malchisidec. He is the only Priest. Through His mediation and no other. Or at least this is my belief. Others are entitled to their own. I'm not sure I follow you on this last blood sacrifice........... YAHshua was the last of the so called blood sacrifices. There not need be anymore.

Priests didn't just do blood sacrifices.

[wmam]

Originally Posted by Aqualung

No. But I beleive they are saints. Yet if a saint were defined as those who follow the mosaic law, they wouldn't be saints.

Ah, I beleive the opposite. I beleive they had the gospel of Jesus Christ written in their hearts. I beleive that the Jews heardened their hearts to this gospel, so they had to get the lower law. Now we have Christ's gospel again, so we don't need that lower law.

Yes, and it was a really good debate.

That's in the doctrine and Covenants.
Priests didn't just do blood sacrifices.

I never said that they were defined by doing the Mosaic Law. The scripture said that they keep the Commandments of YAHweh, and the faith of YAHshua. Do you dispute the scripture?

I still don't get where you get this "High" Law and "Lower" Law.

Law is Law and if it came from YAHweh then it is just LAW. YAHshua does the bidding of the one who sent Him. YAHweh. Yahsua does not make Law. His Father made the Law. YAHshua taught us how to better understand the same Law. He also spoke of Law's that man added. I believe He called it a burdensome yoke. So when looking into the Laws we have to try and discern that which was wrongly put there by vain men.

Yes it was and is a good debate. I thank you.

What doctrine and where in the Covenants? This you gave isn't a very clear answer. One could spnd a lot of time researching something that one may claim as fact without proof to back it up other than to say it is there somewhere. LOL ... Give one some help please.

I never said that the Priest only duties where that of blood sacrifices. I just said that they where resolved. Yahshua stands as the one and only Priest.

[Aqualung]

Originally Posted by wmam

I never said that they were defined by doing the Mosaic Law. The scripture said that they keep the Commandments of YAHweh, and the faith of YAHshua. Do you dispute the scripture?

I still don't get where you get this "High" Law and "Lower" Law.

Law is Law and if it came from YAHweh then it is just LAW. YAHshua does the bidding of the one who sent Him. YAHweh. Yahsua does not make Law. His Father made the Law. YAHshua taught us how to better understand the same Law. He also spoke of Law's that man added. I believe He called it a burdensome yoke. So when looking into the Laws we have to try and discern that which was wrongly put there by vain men.

Yes it was and is a good debate. I thank you.

What doctrine and where in the Covenants? This you gave isn't a very clear answer. One could spnd a lot of time researching something that one may claim as fact without proof to back it up other than to say it is there somewhere. LOL ... Give one some help please.

I never said that the Priest only duties where that of blood sacrifices. I just said that they where resolved. Yahshua stands as the one and only Priest.

Okay, I'll have to answer the bulk of this later. Doctrine & Covenants is modern day revelation given to the prophet joseph smith and is one of the LDS four standard works.

[wmam]

Originally Posted by Aqualung

Okay, I'll have to answer the bulk of this later. Doctrine & Covenants is modern day revelation given to the prophet joseph smith and is one of the LDS four standard works.

Oh....... I don't know Joseph Smith. And what does LDS stand for?

Oh and some reading for you if you like.........

2nd Tim.3:1-7
PSALMS 119:1-2
PSALMS 119:150-151
PSALMS 25:10
PSALMS 25:14
Romans 2:17-29
Romans 9:1-4
Romans 11:13-18
Exodus 16:1-4
Judges 2:1-23
Deu 31:24-30
Romans 2:27-29
Deu 10:12-16
Deu 30:6-20
Gen 39:9
Gen 26:4-5
Jam 2:14-26
Romans 2:11-15
Romans 7:1
Romans 7:14
1Tim. 1:8-10
2Pe 2:5-8

Enjoy.

[wmam]

And if that wasn't enough you could read this from a great site.........

http://nccicharlotte.com/worksbylaw.htm

[tonyt1967]

Originally Posted by wmam

Maybe what I am asking is to hard..............

Let me rephrase it into a question.............

Which day, using the Scriptures, do you think the Resurection took place and why?

What does it matter?

[wmam]

Originally Posted by tonyt1967

What does it matter?

It matters plenty to some and nothing to others but I take it that it is of substance there for search out its truth.