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Old 11-10-2008, 07:09 AM
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Default Did Job exist?

Many people are aware that Job is poetry in its original language.

So, if the book of Job is poetic, how reliable is it? Did Job really exist? Is it merely metaphor, or did this really happen? And if it did happen, how many people did it happen to? One? Two? Or is it metaphorical for the patience of humanity.


I would like to do one on Adam, Eve, Cain and Abel - but I'll do that in time.

In the meantime, what are your thoughts on what I've asked? Why do you believe what you do?
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Old 11-10-2008, 07:12 AM
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There is no historical evidence, so there's nothing to base a determination as to whether the story is inspired by the events of a real person's life. However, Job exists as a real person a little bit in all of us, don't you think, as do his "friends"?
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Old 11-10-2008, 08:58 AM
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Job probably didn't exist. The book in fact seems to follow a pattern of ancient theodicy where a person who is pious according to a religion's standards doesn't receive the expected blessings or, as Job, appears to be cursed for it. There then ensues long dialogues with friends or sages working out why this all happened. In none of these other cases is it assumed that the sufferer in the story actually existed.
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Many people are aware that Job is poetry in its original language.

So, if the book of Job is poetic, how reliable is it? Did Job really exist? Is it merely metaphor, or did this really happen? And if it did happen, how many people did it happen to? One? Two? Or is it metaphorical for the patience of humanity.


I would like to do one on Adam, Eve, Cain and Abel - but I'll do that in time.

In the meantime, what are your thoughts on what I've asked? Why do you believe what you do?
It doesn't really matter if Job was real or wasn't real. Job is an exercise in philosophy, through poetry. Whether it was a true story or not, the arguments and conclusions would be the same.
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It doesn't really matter if Job was real or wasn't real. Job is an exercise in philosophy, through poetry. Whether it was a true story or not, the arguments and conclusions would be the same.
It depends on whether or not someone believes Job was a prophet. I suppose for Muslims, it does matter. Though I do agree with you.
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Job is an allegory. I suppose it is a story about how men still worship God even after hardships. That would mean it is still relevant today.
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I agree with Christine it is an allegory and if so should not be used as scripture to prove anything.
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I agree with Christine it is an allegory and if so should not be used as scripture to prove anything.
How do you manage to take such a simple thing and screw it up with such incoherent abandon?
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Let me ask you a simple question, Jayhawker. Would you take any poetry written today and use it to prove a theological question?
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Let me ask you a simple question, Jayhawker. Would you take any poetry written today and use it to prove a theological question?
I think the question is meaningless and reflects your ignorance and petty compulsion to ridicule scripture. You, and you alone, have introjected the childish concept of using Job to "proving" something. You continue to underwhelm ...
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