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Well, the bab made His announcement in 1844, by 1850 the Islamic authorities had had Him publicly executed for that announcement. By 1853, the government of Persia had publicdly executed as many as 20,000 followers of the Bab and Baha`u'llah was exiled by the Shah of Persia to Baghdad.

In Europe there was a fevered interest in The Bab. The story of His execution appeared in the London Times within ten days of the event. Sarah Bernhardt the great tragic actress of Paris commissioned a play to be wrien so she could star in the role of the Bab (she had a history of performing male roles in great tragedies).

By 1868, Baha`u'llah had declared Himself to be the fulfillment of the Bab's promise (He Whom God Will Make Manifest) and had written letters of announcement to the crowned heads of Europe, the Ottoman Empire and Persia, the elected leaders of the Americas, the priests and pontiffs of Christianity and the Mullaheen of Islam.

So it was hardly incognito.

Today from a single disciple in the B ab's home on May 22nd, 1844 163 years later there are about 7,000,000 Baha`i's around the world. Incognito?

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Again Scott, like the Millerite movement and the Jehovah's Witnesses, who tried time and time again to predict the Second Coming and failed miserably. The Bible says that EVERYONE will know when Jesus comes to the world. Jesus also spoke of false prophets that would try to pull this off. Israel was not a nation in the 1800's either, which needed to to happen before Jesus' Second Coming.

One could argue that Pentecost was the Second Coming and it fulfills much if not all prophecy regarding the Second Coming. My only objection to this is the world is not at peace.
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"Again Scott, like the Millerite movement and the Jehovah's Witnesses, who tried time and time again to predict the Second Coming and failed miserably. The Bible says that EVERYONE will know when Jesus comes to the world. Jesus also spoke of false prophets that would try to pull this off. Israel was not a nation in the 1800's either, which needed to to happen before Jesus' Second Coming.

One could argue that Pentecost was the Second Coming and it fulfills much if not all prophecy regarding the Second Coming. My only objection to this is the world is not at peace."

The closest thing to your statement is the behavior of the Pharisees who denied Jesus was the Messiah. Jesus fulfilled the prophecies in every way but to the Sanhedrin's satisfaction.

So too the Bab in 1844.

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"Again Scott, like the Millerite movement and the Jehovah's Witnesses, who tried time and time again to predict the Second Coming and failed miserably. The Bible says that EVERYONE will know when Jesus comes to the world. Jesus also spoke of false prophets that would try to pull this off. Israel was not a nation in the 1800's either, which needed to to happen before Jesus' Second Coming.

One could argue that Pentecost was the Second Coming and it fulfills much if not all prophecy regarding the Second Coming. My only objection to this is the world is not at peace."

The closest thing to your statement is the behavior of the Pharisees who denied Jesus was the Messiah. Jesus fulfilled the prophecies in every way but to the Sanhedrin's satisfaction.

So too the Bab in 1844.

Regards,
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I imagine the Muslims feel the same way concerning Muhammad and the Mormons concerning Joseph Smith and the countless other so-called prophets of God and their followers. But where is the peace that Jesus said that would follow His second coming?
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I imagine the Muslims feel the same way concerning Muhammad and the Mormons concerning Joseph Smith and the countless other so-called prophets of God and their followers. But where is the peace that Jesus said that would follow His second coming?
The Kingdom of God has been delivered in a huge packing crate with a big labe that reads:

SOME ASSEMBLY REQUIRED


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This is how some people try to grasp that crate.
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This is how some people try to grasp that crate.
And this is how others do it:
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