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Old 05-11-2008, 10:36 PM
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Default Roman Catholics are less Christain compared to LDS?
I stated in a previous verse that the LDS are more Christian than Roman catholics and i was asked to create a thread about it.

I wish to limit the discussion to specific biblical facts in so that we can have a meaningfull discussion that can be blown wide open to confusion.

Here we Go, the LDS beleives:

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"We believe that all mankind may be saved by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the gospel." Articles of Faith
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This is consistent in part if not as a whole to the following verses:

1 Timothy 2:4
who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.

and

1 Corinthians 5:13

God will judge those outside. "Expel the wicked man from among you."

The RCC according to Francis Cassily's book " religion: doctrine and practice on page 355 states this:




I think thats cruel, I'd rather be mormon than catholic....
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I stated in a previous verse that the LDS are more Christian than Roman catholics and i was asked to create a thread about it.
What a twisted question...
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Old 05-11-2008, 11:11 PM
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Here we Go, the LDS beleives that almost all of human kind will be saved from punishment and enter heaven. (LDS correct me if i am wrong)
"We believe that all mankind may be saved by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the gospel." Articles of Faith

The definition of heaven is not the same for the LDS as it is for mainstream Christianity. So the above statement in the quote is somewhat misleading. Personally, I think anyone who professes Christ as his redeemer and savior, AND follows Christ's commandments, is a Christian. Catholic, Methodist, Baptist, non-denominational, etc. A Christian is a follower of Christ.

As to who will be "saved"? That requires more discussion.
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Old 05-11-2008, 11:15 PM
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"We believe that all mankind may be saved by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the gospel." Articles of Faith

The definition of heaven is not the same for the LDS as it is for mainstream Christianity. So the above statement in the quote is somewhat misleading.

thank you for the correction, i went ahead an quoted it in the initial post if you don't mind...
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Old 05-11-2008, 11:19 PM
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I am a former Catholic and I have never heard of Francis Cassilly. I have also never heard that quote before. You are right, the quote is cruel but I think you would find that most (if not all) Catholics would disagree with it. I always thought 'Christian' meant 'follower of Christ'. Different Christian-based churches have different interpretations and traditions, but I don't think one is "less Christian" than another.
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Old 05-11-2008, 11:24 PM
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. You are right, the quote is cruel but I think you would find that most (if not all) Catholics would disagree with it.

well, then they will disagree with their own doctrine....


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I always thought 'Christian' meant 'follower of Christ'.

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Different Christian-based churches have different interpretations and traditions, but I don't think one is "less Christian" than another.
well, Catholics will have a hard time reconciling 1 Cor 5:13, with the "there is no salvation outside the catholic church doctrine."

two contradicting concepts cannot be both true
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I honestly don't believe that one person is more a Christian than another by just their denomination.
I see the generalization of Catholics. I was never fond of generalization, since no one actually fits a generalization except in satire.
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I stated in a previous verse that the LDS are more Christian than Roman catholics and i was asked to create a thread about it.
Actually you said, that LDS are "closer to being Christian" than the Catholics... I asked you to explain why you believed Catholics to not be Christian, not why you thought the LDS were closer...

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well, then they will disagree with their own doctrine....
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Every man who is ignorant of the Gospel of Christ and of his Church, but seeks the truth and does the will of God in accordance with his understanding of it, can be saved.
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Its nice to have a misconception cleared up, isn't it?
Somehow I think it will be ignored.....
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