Roman Catholics are less Christain compared to LDS? (punishment, gospel)

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by uss_bigd

don't they deserve to know the truth that you and i know?

I believe you already told them.

[uss_bigd]

Originally Posted by Katzpur

I believe you already told them.

ok, your asking me to stop already because they will not admit it outloud. and that it is enough that i told them and leave it up to their conscience to digest the information.

ok, katspur, I agree with you. I rest my case. i will stop now.

[Charity]

Originally Posted by Charity

Sorry Draka, I didn't know you had already checked this post out today until I got on here.....But here goes anyway..............USS Big d I have agreed with you on previous posts and have considered you a Christian brother (I still do) The Bible says if you have ought against your brother you are to go to him.... I don't know your reason or motivation for this thread, but if you wanted to teach or enlighten someone on where you thought they were wrong, or try to reason with someone in a Christian like manner you have failed. The only thing you have accomplished is turning them off. You will probably never be able to have any type of discussion with them again because you attacked their beliefs and have caused them to turn a deaf ear to you and anything you may try to tell them they won't want to listen.... you can't beat your way of thinking into them, you are just beating yourself over the head instead.

It is making the rest of the Christians look bad to everyone, so please just apoligize and say you are sorry and drop this whole thread. The Christians should be working together and supporting each other.........
Blessings and PEACE (I hope)
Charity

Sir Perhaps you need to read this post again....You are telling me that I made an error that the scripture I used about "having ought against your brother to go to him", you said it was meant from Christian to Chirstian......That was what I intended it to be, I mean I have ought against you, for the way you are representing the rest of us Christians....That was what I was doing, bringing my petition to you for you to stop this attack.......This is a PERSONAL request to you, (I have ought)

[Mister Emu]

The website stated there is no salvation outside the catholic church. NO MEANS NO!

There is a section with those words a header, it then explains what exactly is meant by that. It explains that there is salvation outside the Catholic Church.

YOUR POPE AND BISHOPS WILL NOT HAVE ANYWAY OF KNOWING IF THE PEOPLE TRUELY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE SAYING NO TO CHRIST WHEN THEY REFUSE THE RCC.

WHICH REINFORCES MY STANCE, GOD WILL JUDGE THOSE FROM THE OUTSIDE AND GOD WILL BESTOW MERCY TO THOSE HE WANTS TO SHOW MERCY.

THE "NO SALVATION PART" OF THE DOCTRINE IS WRONG, THERE SHOULD BE NOTHING IN TRUE CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE THAT SHOWS THAT AFFIRMATION.

The Catechism clearly says that the statement doesn't apply to those whose understanding is incomplete.

i beleive that i ask the question first.

Yes, you did. I apologize, I interpret it in light of the apostles beliefs, such a Paul calling himself "your FATHER through the Gospel" 1 Cor. 4:15(ish), and John calls his congregants "FATHERS" 1 John 2:13

DON'T YOU FIND IT ODD THAT YOU ARE PITTING ONE VERSE AGAINST ANOTHER JUST TO DEFEND THE RCC'S ERRONEOUS DOCTRINE?

I am not doing that at all... I am taking in all the verses at once.

[Scott1]

OH vey... one last time... deep breaths everyone.

First, let’s look at what Jesus actually said:

Matthew 23:
8But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
9And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
(KJV)

We can start with verse 8... But be not ye called Rabbi (teacher)

BUT…. the Apostle Paul not only recognized teachers as gifts of God to the Church,(1 Corinthians 12:28 and Ephesians 4:11) but he also did not hesitate to call himself "a teacher of the Gentiles".(2 Timothy 1:11)

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Look at verse 9... And call no man your father
(Notice he does not say SPIRITUAL father… he says father… those are his words.)

BUT… the Apostle Paul wrote, "For if you were to have countless tutors in Christ, yet you would not have many fathers; for in Christ Jesus I became your father through the gospel".(1 Corinthians 4:15) as well as "Fathers, do not provoke your children, lest they become discouraged".(Colossians 3:21)

So either the Catholic tradition of calling our priests “father” or “teacher” is correct…. Or both the Church AND THE APOSTLE PAUL are in error.

Here endeth the lesson.

[uss_bigd]

Originally Posted by Charity

Sir Perhaps you need to read this post again....You are telling me that I made an error that the scripture I used about "having ought against your brother to go to him", you said it was meant from Christian to Chirstian......That was what I intended it to be, I mean I have ought against you, for the way you are representing the rest of us Christians....That was what I was doing, bringing my petition to you for you to stop this attack.......

I am sorry if i misunderstood you ma'm.

But this is not an attack.

"This is opening their eyes from darkness to light"

But as Katspur said I already told them what it is thats need to be told. I wll rest my case, thank you.

[uss_bigd]

Mr. Emu and Scott1,

I already told you what is needed to be told, and showed you what you needed to see. I will leave it up to your conscience, as my conscience is clear. I believe come judgement day your blood will not be searched from my hands anymore.

I will leave everyone with this verses:

Mat 13:17

"For I tell you the truth, many prophets and righteous men longed to see what you see but did not see it, and to hear what you hear but did not hear it."


Peace Guys!

[Scott1]

Originally Posted by uss_bigd

I already told you what is needed to be told, and showed you what you needed to see. I will leave it up to your conscience, as my conscience is clear. I believe come judgement day your blood will not be searched from my hands anymore.

Fair enough.... what's next?

We need more eye opening!