Roman Catholics are less Christain compared to LDS? (punishment, gospel)

[uss_bigd]

uss_bigd makes spurious claims such as "Catholics aren't persecuted".

I do not see the fact the kings, presidents, prime ministers and world leaders kissing the Pope's feet as persecution.

Originally Posted by Mister Emu

uss_bigd can't accept Catholic understanding of Catholic doctrine. So he makes up his own understanding of it, then calls that understanding unBiblical, then decides the Church doctrine is unBiblical.

If you try to have sex with a girl and she says no, and charges you of rape, you cant argue in court she meant yes.



no means no... in whatever language it means no. NO!

[uss_bigd]

Originally Posted by Draka

Hmmm, so that's how a debate works.

You start a thread with a blanket statement with an opinion of what something means...

You ignore what others have to say about said opinion...

You continue to state it as fact...

You declare debate over and that you win.

Hmmmm...I guess you learn something new everyday. I didn't know that was how to debate.

Why are you joining a topic you don't believe to be discussing real things? we are discussing christianity here, do you believe in Christianity? why do you think you will a have say on something you don't beleive in to begin with?

[Mister Emu]

I do not see the fact the kings, presidents, prime ministers and world leaders kissing the Pope's feet as persecution.

Italian nun killed by Somali gunmen
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If you try to have sex with a girl and she says no, and charges you of rape, you cant argue in court she meant yes.



no means no... in whatever language it means no. NO!

It would be like you trying to convict someone of rape when the woman keeps protesting that it wasn't. "Lady, we know better than you whether you consented or not."

[uss_bigd]

Originally Posted by Mister Emu

Italian nun killed by Somali gunmen
Catholic World News : Nine Nuns Killed In Rwanda
Nuns killed in Yemen
FOXNews.com - Catholic Priest Shot, Killed at Church in Turkey - U.S. & World

Fact remains, worlds leaders kisses the Pope's feet. That can never be seen as persecution

Originally Posted by Mister Emu

It would be like you trying to convict someone of rape when the woman keeps protesting that it wasn't. "Lady, we know better than you whether you consented or not."

no means no sir, no means no....

[Draka]

Originally Posted by uss_bigd

Why are you joining a topic you don't believe to be discussing real things? we are discussing christianity here, do you believe in Christianity? why do you think you will a have say on something you don't beleive in to begin with?

Am I joining the topic? Am I saying jack crap about the topic? No. I was commenting on the method of debate. Which seems to be like this:

Original poster: This is this and that is that because so and so said this and this is written there and it means this.

Respondent: No, not really, because…. Kjfldlskfj…and I speak from experience and knowledge

R: That’s not what that means and it is taken out of context, the full statement is…kjdfjzldknclkdjvlckl….which when analyzed can be found to mean this.

R: The so and so you mentioned is either not known, heard of, or is just one person giving their opinion and is not conclusive fact.

OP: Nuh uh…cause so and so said this and this is written there and means this so…this is this and that is that.

Wash, rinse, and repeat ad nauseum for several pages……….

OP: Well, I win…this is this and that is that because so and so said this and this is written there and it means this. End of story.


Oh, and if I felt like chiming in, I darn well would. My mother's side of my family happens to be Catholic and I'll say what I want. I don't have to believe a certain way to have knowledge about something.

[uss_bigd]

Originally Posted by Draka

Am I joining the topic? Am I saying jack crap about the topic? No. I was commenting on the method of debate. Which seems to be like this:

Original poster: This is this and that is that because so and so said this and this is written there and it means this.

Respondent: No, not really, because…. Kjfldlskfj…and I speak from experience and knowledge

R: That’s not what that means and it is taken out of context, the full statement is…kjdfjzldknclkdjvlckl….which when analyzed can be found to mean this.

R: The so and so you mentioned is either not known, heard of, or is just one person giving their opinion and is not conclusive fact.

OP: Nuh uh…cause so and so said this and this is written there and means this so…this is this and that is that.

Wash, rinse, and repeat ad nauseum for several pages……….

OP: Well, I win…this is this and that is that because so and so said this and this is written there and it means this. End of story.


Oh, and if I felt like chiming in, I darn well would. My mother's side of my family happens to be Catholic and I'll say what I want. I don't have to believe a certain way to have knowledge about something.

With all due respect ma'm, they were the ones who said "no salvation ...."

all i said was no means no. no means no, it means no.

[Mister Emu]

Fact remains, worlds leaders kisses the Pope's feet.

What world leader has kissed Pope Benedict's feet?

That can never be seen as persecution

The LDS leader isn't getting persecuted either...

The fact remains that Catholics are persecuted in many places around the world and the claim "Catholics aren't persecuted" was spurious.

no means no sir, no means no....

You do not decide Catholic doctrine uss_bigd. The Catholic Church does, and what it says on the matter is that salvation exists outside the Church.

[Mister Emu]

Am I joining the topic? Am I saying jack crap about the topic? No. I was commenting on the method of debate. Which seems to be like this:

Original poster: This is this and that is that because so and so said this and this is written there and it means this.

Respondent: No, not really, because…. Kjfldlskfj…and I speak from experience and knowledge

R: That’s not what that means and it is taken out of context, the full statement is…kjdfjzldknclkdjvlckl….which when analyzed can be found to mean this.

R: The so and so you mentioned is either not known, heard of, or is just one person giving their opinion and is not conclusive fact.

OP: Nuh uh…cause so and so said this and this is written there and means this so…this is this and that is that.

Wash, rinse, and repeat ad nauseum for several pages……….

OP: Well, I win…this is this and that is that because so and so said this and this is written there and it means this. End of story.


Oh, and if I felt like chiming in, I darn well would. My mother's side of my family happens to be Catholic and I'll say what I want. I don't have to believe a certain way to have knowledge about something.