Roman Catholics are less Christain compared to LDS? (punishment, gospel)

[uss_bigd]

Originally Posted by Mister Emu

Katz, no I am not saying that.

Read post #16 for a Catholic understanding of the teaching

Then a doctrine that will teach that there is no salvation outside their church is a lie, a big lie.

Catholic doctrine stated that, it is explicitly written as such in the post of Scott, and explicitly written in francis cassily's book.


There is no denying sir, to say otherwise would mean you are going against your own Church's doctrine

[uss_bigd]

Originally Posted by Mister Emu

No. As has been pointed out, it also doesn't mean what you said it meant.

'NO SALVATION OUTSIDE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH"

This statement cannot mean excommunicate, because you excommunicate those from the inside.

This statement cannot mean other than those outside the catholic church are condemned to eternal fire.

Scott's contention was it refer to those who will reject the church as Christs chruch, then stll. you judged those outside when it is explicit in Pauls epistles the same read in catholic masses:

" GOD JUDGES THOSE FROM THE OUTSIDE"
" HE DESIRES THAT ALL MEN BE SAVED"
" I WILL SHOW MERCY TO THOSE OF WHOM I WANT TO SHOW MERCY TOO."

[Mister Emu]

Catholic doctrine stated that, it is explicitly written as such in the post of Scott, and explicitly written in francis cassily's book.


There is no denying sir, to say otherwise would mean you are going against your own Church's doctrine

It says what it says, but it doesn't mean what you say it means.

[Mister Emu]

Originally Posted by uss_bigd

'NO SALVATION OUTSIDE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH"

This statement cannot mean excommunicate, because you excommunicate those from the inside.

This statement cannot mean other than those outside the catholic church are condemned to eternal fire.

Scott's contention was it refer to those who will reject the church as Christs chruch, then stll. you judged those outside when it is explicit in Pauls epistles the same read in catholic masses:

" GOD JUDGES THOSE FROM THE OUTSIDE"
" HE DESIRES THAT ALL MEN BE SAVED"
" I WILL SHOW MERCY TO THOSE OF WHOM I WANT TO SHOW MERCY TOO."

It has been explained to you several times...

[uss_bigd]

This thread is actually over.

Christians are those people who follow Christs, long-suffers to follow christs and long-suffers until the end.

Catholic doctrine states: " no salvation outside their church" ( even if membes beleive otherwise, thats how your church's doctrine look like, i am sorry)

LDS beleives most or is it all of human kind will be saved.

consistent with in part or in whole with the verses that state:

" GOD JUDGES THOSE FROM THE OUTSIDE"
" HE DESIRES THAT ALL MEN BE SAVED"
" I WILL SHOW MERCY TO THOSE OF WHOM I WANT TO SHOW MERCY TOO."

Catholics, specially the pope are not persecuted, they are reverred and glorified.

LDS on the other hand are persecuted

consistent to the verse that states:

"The servant is greater than his master, if they persecuted be, and so will you be persecuted"


It is done. The LDS Doctrine will seem to be more Christian than the catholic doctrine.


That is a biblical fact read my signature...

[uss_bigd]

Originally Posted by Mister Emu

It says what it says, but it doesn't mean what you say it means.

I am sorry sir, it states "no salvation outside the catholic church" i will say it means their is no salvation outside the catholic church.

is there salvation outside the catholic church? it says "no" how can it be a yes? when it says no?

I don't even have to rephrase or change the words, it means what it says it means.

[Mister Emu]

I guess it is over.

uss_bigd can't accept Catholic understanding of Catholic doctrine. So he makes up his own understanding of it, then calls that understanding unBiblical, then decides the Church doctrine is unBiblical.

uss_bigd makes spurious claims such as "Catholics aren't persecuted".

Then he declares victory...

[Mister Emu]

i will say it means their is no salvation outside the catholic church.

Exactly as I said, it does not mean what you say it means.

is there salvation outside the catholic church? it says "no" how can it be a yes? when it says no?

Yes, the opportunity for salvation exists outside the Catholic Church, as Catholic doctrine teaches.

I don't even have to rephrase or change the words, it means what it says it means.

It does not speak to its own meaning.